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Does the good outweigh the bad with DM? and what do you like from Canales so far? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or an Ahole, genuinely asking your opinion.

As long as that script involves sub 5 yard throws.

I do think we'll be "patient" and give Canales and Morgan another year. I like some of the things DM has done, and I like Canales to an extent. Would like to see what they do without Evero and Bryce, but also may just be re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Again, I am not defending him but putting the blame on him for Sundays loss is just ridiculous. Put it this way, in order for them to have won, Bryce would have thrown 7 TD's.

Of course Dave Tepper is, and Nicole. Such a nice boy

I don’t understand the organization blame thing in the sense that the people who were here when Baker was here are not the people who are in place for this iteration of the team. This era. Morgan is no offensive guy and if was here for Baker and Sam (just looked he came here in 2021) he likely had little to do with any of that he was a subordinate front office exec with scant offensive background. I also can’t quite reason out why he would have had real influence over the selection of which QB we took, because what kind of power did he even have? I say probably little real power. I think he should be judged by what he did as GM when he did have some power. And the idea that if f something is perceived to be wrong now they are blamed/credited for what happened when they weren’t even here. Tepper is the only real link. I struggle to accept this line of thinking.

You think hashtags will make a billionaire sell something?

Move the team. Get a 33rd franchise.

The opening game scripted plays. It was down hill from there.

his unit has technically got us our only win on the season. It's actually not the easiest sell if your are the Panthers given our O likely is slightly worse than our D.

Shadeur? It literally wouldn't be any worse than this. It would gain some rep with the media. A call should be made but it won't.

I’ll start off by saying this: in no way, shape, or form should Bryce Young be the starting QB for us next year. I accepted that reality last year—by Weeks 1 and 2, I was already disgusted by what I saw. Now, let’s get to why I don’t think Canales is fully to blame (at least play-calling wise). There aren’t a lot of plays for 3rd-and-long situations when we have no speed on the field, and with Tet becoming a star, he’s likely to get double-teamed on those downs. So, instead of putting Bryce in position for an interception or sack-fumble, Canales runs the ball. Cool, I get it. Also, Bryce has a huge tendency of staring down ONE receiver as well and would elude getting an INT. But here’s what’s off to me: when Andy Dalton comes in, the ball is being ripped downfield. (Yes, I understand Andy is a longtime veteran.) We even saw it last year—Andy threw the ball well, made the right decision and moved the offense down the field. Now with Bryce, though, I think Canales is handcuffed by his limited abilities. Throwing off his tippy-toes or throwing jump balls (never seen Russell or Drew Bree’s do that), I just don’t think he fits the mold of thing Canales wants in a QB. Bryce has also reverted to his ways with his footwork as well. It’s glaring on tape now. There were times yesterday when I saw Bryce have time in the pocket, and he still threw a checkdown. Or there were guys open, but he couldn’t fit the ball into a tight window because he didn’t have the arm strength to do it. I’m not going to put all the blame on Canales—he’s working with what he’s got—but I’m not letting him off the hook either. Here’s how I see it: I think Tepper will allow Dave to pick his QB of choice this year to run the offense, whether that comes through free agency or the NFL Draft. Something has to get done. I cannot keep watching situations where receivers are NFL-open, but Bryce can’t make the throw, or when a tackle or guard gets pushed back a few steps and Bryce shows “Bambi legs.” I just can’t keep watching it anymore. I don’t think Dave gets fired, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he did. That could be the potential route the organization takes. To me, it feels like we’re saving money for something. I also think Tepper’s and Dan’s patience with Bryce is wearing thin as well. Just my opinion. #KeepPounding

This thread reminded me how annoying hubby was

They sat on the WR that's been bailing him out while watching the run. We are back to 'everything around him needs to be a probowler' times again. Just disregard the open guys down field...

I really hope after all the mistakes he’s made, that Tepper finally follows a proven NFL model for success. Maybe he will finally hire a consulting agency for the search.

Surprised Evero hasn't been fired this morning yet...

Yup, hindsight is 20/20 there LG. I was told the League couldn't force JR to sell, while technically true, I'm sure there was a TON of pressure and persuasion tactics being used behind the scenes. IIRC, Tepper wasn't even the highest bidder, Navarro(?) was but he wasn't the RICHEST bidder. Tepper had the biggest wallet in the pool of bidders. This is the reason the Walton family owns the Broncos even though there were people like Manning and Elway in ownership groups that would have made WAY more sense for the League.

Lol mac and bone are blaming the wrs and saying Bryce overthrows were throwaways. God this beautiful delusion

With the exception of the Arizona comeback we rarely see Canales rally the guys to make games competitive after being blown out. I think it stems from a lack of faith in Bryce and honestly Bryce’s limited physical abilities. If you have a QB who physically can’t push the ball down the field, how are you going to make a comeback when down 28 points in the second half?

All the Phins have to do is attack the interior/middle of the field and there is no way we can keep pace w/ them. we can't really keep up with any offense.

Water is wet. Onto the next QB next year.

I haven't bought Panthers merch since Tepper has bought the team. That and the jerseys are Nike. The last thing I bought was a hat around 2017.

Fine! I won't buy any more of his hedge fund!

Been saying these things since day 1. They hit all the points. 1. Bryce doesn't fit these offenses. Not Frank's nor Canales'. He isn't a fit. (my whole square pegs and round holes mantra) 2. Dave's offense is suited for a gunslinger type. They referenced Dave's previous employment in Seattle and Tampa paired w/ gunslingers. 3. Bryce Young is a really bad QB beyond 10 yards. 4. Got to admit Bryce Young lacks the physical tools and it causes problems. 5. It's evident in the situational play calling and in general they don't actual trust Bryce (and you got 2 coaching staffs in a row essentially saying all the same things about Bryce). so add these guys to the irrational haters club. Because they put all the greatest hits into one podcast.