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Moore may get a PS but most likely get cut
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I agree with this
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Barnwell - Ranking WR, TE, RB Groups in NFL
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
That's fine but you are just ignoring his logic behind because you just simply don't like it. That's your prerogative, certainly, but it doesn't invalidate his perspective. I would say if you weight the groups similarly to how he does, it's very hard to justify us being outside the bottom 5. On paper our WR group is easily bottom 3 in the NFL and our TE groups is probably bottom 5 too. As good as our RB corps is, for a "weighted towards WR" ranking of WR/TE/RB groups, it's very hard to justify anything outside the bottom 5. I don't see any reason to dispute it at all. These guys have to go out on the field and prove they are better than that. Nothing special about that scenario for a boatload if very unproven players. It just is what it is. -
He won 39 games his first year. Then we made the correct decision and let our franchise player walk. Obviously that comes with a step back and a rebuild. 23 wins in a COVID shortened season 33 wins 43 wins then fired. He was building a competive basketball team with an incompetent owner and was fired because we got butt fuged in the play in
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I am not gonna subscribe but I just plain don't believe we have had many offers.
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It's how long that statement remains true that is the problem every year. Last year it was 15 games. The year before 20 games. The year before that, they didn't make it to Halloween.
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https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/luke-decock/article310129845.html From Luke with the observer
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The problem with Borrego is that development you speak of amounted to one step forward two steps back more often than not. And when we got to any playoff atmosphere that development went right out the window. The mistake was firing him and having absolutely no answer except running it back with Clifford. That was a horrible decision obviously. For me I don't think this franchise is going to fire and hire their way into being competitive and relevant again. Lee needs to show improvement this upcoming season. But your argument of firing him now while running cover for Borrego doesn't make much sense sir.
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Barnwell - Ranking WR, TE, RB Groups in NFL
Davidson Deac II replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
Don't care. We have two thousand yard rushers. The receiving group is pretty much the same, except that we added a first round pick and Renfrow. Tight End group is the same. Just goes to show how arbitrary some of these rankings are. It was basically they were bad last year (at least to start the year) so they will be even worse this year. -
Barnwell - Ranking WR, TE, RB Groups in NFL
Doc LRB replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
We get no resecpt of course we been fairly rotten for the last few years. I am excited about this year!! Hope BY keeps stepping up in pocket and will be disapointed if we don't make play offs. -
Rookies report 2 weeks from today.
TheSpecialJuan replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Players were actually developing under him imo. Something that wasn't happening under Clifford and players like miller seemed to regress before injuries last year. I still think they should fire lee and try to hire thibs or Malone if they're available
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Rookies report 2 weeks from today.
PNW_PantherMan replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Hope so
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Nobody wants him for that contract. I really doubt we're getting much back for him without something else in the package and/or retained salary.
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What are y'all grilling/smoking with ??
PanthersATL replied to Mayor Qumiby's topic in Huddle Lounge
It's made charcoal grilling super easy for someone who doesn't want to deal with setting up the snake method -
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PanthersATL replied to Mayor Qumiby's topic in Huddle Lounge
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I don't believe this at all.
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His PPG actually did go up a little in Colorado. We will see. I still sort of believe we saw pretty close to the peak of his abilities last year. Not wishing him ill or trashing him in any way. Just tend to believe we did sell high and correctly so.
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Barnwell - Ranking WR, TE, RB Groups in NFL
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
Well, other teams also had an offseason. I honestly agree with him. Right now I have way more faith in Coker ascending then I do XL. I think it's the TE/WR group dragging us down. Plus he does mention that the list was made with WR's very much valued more than RB's and TE's(I understand the thought process). In that context, we have a very aging AT, two "wait and see" second year players(one leaning bust) and a rookie. I really think this is a very fair rating, on paper and in the offseason. Quite frankly, aside from the aforementioned and aging AT, this is a bunch of guys still trying to prove themselves. Then when you go to TE, it's easily a bottom 3-4 unit on paper. That is probably being extremely generous. RB is where we make our hay. Probably a top 5-10 unit. But....he mentions early in the article that he doesn't value the RB units as much. So, really, it's the weighting of the skill positions that is what really fugs us. -
Rookies report 2 weeks from today.
Captain Morgan replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think over the next 2 weeks we'll sign a safety, and perhaps also a corner. -
Barnwell - Ranking WR, TE, RB Groups in NFL
ForJimmy replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
I was just referring to how we always do poorly when expectations are high and in our better years (yes it's been a while) we did best under the radar. -
Barnwell - Ranking WR, TE, RB Groups in NFL
frankw replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
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In hindsight JB wasn't to blame for the lacking culture. He did what he could with a LaMelo Ball led team. That doesn't mean he was the long term answer either. Different things can be true at one time.
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HaricotVert replied to Mayor Qumiby's topic in Huddle Lounge
Ive relied on snakes for shoulders and ribs but the venom sounds awesome
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