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I would stay away from Proctor too, and I want an OT. Too much uncertainty to take him in the 1st round for me.
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My thoughts exactly. I’m telling you, the canes flame out in playoffs, esp early, fire Tulsky season in full effect.
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General Offseason Chat/News (& AI slop postings)
strato replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Forward this poo to Bryce. -
International soccer today. Ghana is not as good as they use to be thinking most of their shot attempts will be blocked or not on frame. Not sure they even get that many off but it almost tripled payout
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A Zietlow (observer) 3 centers to consider for draft
SmokinwithWilly replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
I honestly wouldn't mind taking them both. We need bodies and depth at the C/G position is certainly something we haven't had in a very long time. -
Is tackle out the window at 19?
SmokinwithWilly replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't see the lateral quickness there to handle speed rushers. He could surprise, but I am very suspect of Bama players at certain positions. Top draft classes every year playing against inferior talent. The gap closes too much when they reach the NFL. -
Panthers draft outlook featuring Joe Person
MHS831 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
There has been too much talk about Smith-Wade going to safety for there not to be something there. IT MAKES SENSE to move him now with Scott as insurance and draft a CB in round 1. Jackson is unlikely to be back next year, and you probably upgrade both Nickel and Safety. If they are considering trading up, Delane could fall into their crosshairs--unlikely, but he could. If not, they could like Terrell or McCoy---just sayin. -
Proctor is gonna be a love/hate prospect and even his lovers will likely admit that the bust factor is high. You gotta want a giant mauler of an OT to love him and even if you want a giant mauler OT you're still concerned if he's going to have the movement skills in space to handle NFL speed rushers. Honestly, I think he's gonna bust.
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Lmaooo
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Panthers draft outlook featuring Joe Person
CPF4LIFE replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Who's gay?? -
General Offseason Chat/News (& AI slop postings)
firefox1234 replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Agree. Tackle is a huge long term need and we put a bandaid on it for this year. Moton or Walker goes down and we are in trouble. I don't think we pass on Mauigoa, Fano, or Freeling at 19, but I bet none are there anyway, which would free us up to go safety, ILB, or defensive end. I think the WR/TE talk is hoping for a trade back. Remember, we b.s.'ed the draft w/ the no. 8 Tet pick last year.
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I've been on the Lomu bandwagon too. Best pure LT in the class.
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As long as Canales and Morgan draft another ROY, I don’t care who the pick at #19 is.
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I told y'all Lomu would overtake Proctor. Freeling jumped over both of them and will be the second OT taken, even over Fano who some teams are projecting as an OG. Freeling will be gone to the most needy LT team after Mauigoa gets drafted; somewhere in the early teens. That leaves the guy who I've been saying for a couple months is best fit for us, Lomu.
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Is tackle out the window at 19?
mrcompletely11 replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
This makes no sense -
'Looking for' and getting are two different things. Most scouts would tell you once you get past the mid-point in the first round, in a typical year, you have past the threshold of sure-fire starters. At that point you are hoping for a day1 starter, but in reality that guy isn't quite ready yet. He's a heir apparent with training wheels for a season. There's nothing wrong with that. That's why LT absolutely should not be off the table at #19. We got one guy with a possible career ending injury and a rent-a-tackle for a season. Solid reasoning for glossing over the second most important position on a NFL team.
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Panthers draft outlook featuring Joe Person
SazmoRanger replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Correct me if I'm wrong but close to the draft I thought Person was one of the few saying there was a lot of interest in TMac and not as much in Walker? -
Not at all you got a day one starter and Nick squirting in the second round last year so how's the top 19 player a frig starter? I think rounds one and two you're looking at opening day starters potentially
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Y'all are acting like Walker is a All-Pro on a 4 year deal. He's a rent-a-tackle on a one-year deal that got past over in FA until we snagged him. There are worse things than having a $4M back up left tackle if he gets beat out. Even if he doesn't get beat out by a hypothetical LT rookie, at least said rookie wouldn't get thrown to the wolves and can be eased into the League. Walker also has a injury history. Who says he stays healthy all season?
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He specifically didn't say LB. I'd make note of that. Very well could indicate that's the target position.
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General Offseason Chat/News (& AI slop postings)
firefox1234 replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Doesn’t sound like any position is ruled out.
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Wagner played both sides, i believe, but settled in at RT. I'll take the RT that can play both sides if the play on the right side is on par with a couple other guys in question. That's the tie breaker.
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It's why I hated the Butler and Shaq picks. When we made those picks, DT and LB were probably our strongest position groups and we looked past huge needs to make luxury picks for depth and future development. Now if we'd drafted guys who developed into perennial All Pros, all good. But that's kinda what you need to justify those types of luxury picks. Some would argue that Shaq justified it. I wouldn't. Just because we ended up paying him like an All Pro doesn't mean he was an All Pro (note: he wasn't). Butler was an outright bust which makes it a really tough pill to swallow for a luxury pick.
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