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i have not watched many gt games. is it his accuracy that hurt his draft stock his armstrength or all of the above?

Personally I think that to many teams force a guy to be a day one starter from the get go. You draft in the first round because you think the player has the potential to be a star. Playing and starting should be based on how they adjust to the NFL and draft position shouldn't matter.

I heard cooter was the main reason for the nascar forum and also heard good dude line. Im a found 2005, didn't like now active it was, scout ended 2007 and came over then. Off and on since, my second name after two years of .........

I mean current guy is around 180 and that's with 500 in one game. Most times he's around 80 early 4th, before he decides to "hey I better push the ball down the field and try to win".... Cam had issues throwing non-MVP years too....

Hear this, he is 2nd all-time for RAS. I repeat 2nd all-time. He's up there with Cam and Luke, *but awful young..

Not only was it a wasted pick, but the Chiefs took Trey Smith 4 picks later and locked up their RG position for years for pennies.

Now that Miami is going to play Kadyn Proctor at left guard and Detroit is going to play Blake Miller at right guard, Freeling is the first true left tackle off the board.

They know within 15 mins. Many moons ago skins drafted Heath Shuler at like 5th overall and Gus Frerotte in the late rounds. You know the plan, its Heaths team. While on the same field with the same players and weather, Old OLman stink said within 15 minutes they knew Gus was the better QB. San Fran old shanny watched practice tapes and told the staff Brock Purdy was the best out the four QBs, jimmy was highest paid, lance was 3 firsts in the pile, and Brock was the clear best as the last pick in the NFL draft.... I didn't need 15 or players on the same field, I just knew like Bill said "he better walk on water", which he hasn't. I do blame tepper mainly for it, he spend the greater part of 2 year telling everyone Watson would be a panther......and fail....but a great fail...then Stanford turned panthers down.....tepper was beyond pissed and wanted a QB. He forced the trade and picked BY......and now by .....some grace of the gods formed a team with 4 QBs of no hope...... insane given the other roster spots.....

He definitely knows nothing about the Panthers, but there’s no denying he’s a pioneer in this whole draft grading and mock draft field.

I actually say wait five years since that's long enough to know if a player became something worthy enough for a long term contract, whether with their original team or someone else. Therefore... 1 (8): Jaycee Horn - Has been questions about his durability but when he's healthy, he plays at a high level. Should we have drafted Pat Surtain or Micah Parsons, however? Arguably could’ve done better, but he's still here so that's a W pick. 2 (59): Terrance Marshall - Yet another classic Panther WR bust. I don’t recall seeing anything in his college tape that made me excited about drafting him in the first place. 3 (70): Brady Christensen - Proved to be a versatile player on the O-line. As of now, we haven’t signed him back and I feel that we should. That's enough to say he was a solid draft pick. 3 (83): Tommy Tremble - Hasn't emerged as a consistent productive player, but he's had his moments here and there. We can certainly do better, but we haven’t found that guy yet so he still has some utility. W because he's not Ian Thomas. 4 (126): Chuba Hubbard - Surprise of the draft. It took time, but he's now our lead back. 5 (158): Daviyon Nixon - Had a half a sack with us and... that's it. I think I liked what I saw but it didn't pan out. 5 (166): Keith Taylor - Another guy I liked but only stuck around for two years. Played for a few other teams but nothing really to note. 6 (193): Deonte Brown - I really thought this guy was going to be a steal. He might’ve been the guy that had weight issues and never really got a handle on it. 6 (204): Shi Smith - He scored double the touchdowns that Marshall did in his short time here; it was two. Yeah, the Panthers wide receiver history is rather bleak. 6 (222): Thomas Fletcher - I had to look it up but he was a long snapper. JJ Jansen is immortal, so it was a wasted draft pick. 7 (232): Phil Hoskins - Actually recorded a sack here in his short career. Wish I could remember it. Surprisingly not a bad draft when you have two good/great starters and a JAG that's still here, plus a good rotation guy most would like to keep.

Cooter was a good dude for sure.

We both been here about the same amount of time. Whatever happened to Livermush? I know Cooter passed aways years ago...and so many others?

Shows that so many "experts" don't actually keep up with all the teams, giving the questions about Freeling. Probably 50/50 Icky plays for the Panthers again. Moton is near the end, Walker is on a one year deal. Tackle was huge question mark.

I bet he knew before that. I did and I am a total amateur. Looking at his size, then his pro day…. All the way out.

Check out SI's draft analysis. https://www.si.com/nfl/2026-nfl-draft-grades-analysis-every-team-picks They rated us a solid C- mostly because we drafted Freeling while already having an insurance plan with Walker (not mentioning that he's currently a one-year rental) and Hunter as depth joining DTs Derick Brown and Tershawn Wharton. So, they apparently felt we didn't have enough splash players added (whatever that means, really).

Frank Reich knew after 3 practices.

Same

I knew after 3 (preseason) games

Yes and failed every year.

Has anybody said we gotta wait 3 years yet?

I really dunno how he's held down that job for so long considering how many people get laid off from ESPN

Reading this really makes it hit home: Mel Kiper is kinda a dope.

Hasn't Bryce been here three years?

I thought we had an excellent draft. We addressed positions of need while still landing quality players across the board. Looking at the class as a whole, it’s clear the front office is taking a long-term approach—many of these picks feel like investments in the future rather than immediate fixes. Freeling projects as the eventual successor at left tackle, which could allow Ickey Ekwonu to slide inside to guard. With that shift, Robert Hunt could become a cap casualty next offseason, opening the door for Ekwonu to take over at right guard. Will Lee also looks like a forward-thinking pick, likely brought in to replace Mike Jackson if he leaves in free agency after the season. Overall, it’s a draft built with both depth and future roster planning in mind.

Unfortunately he can't throw.