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Might be the year to invest a 2nd or 3rd in one. But I haven’t investigated what might be there. I’d say we need to keep that OL pipeline flowing though we don’t need to keep spending this big on guards.

Where is this elite defense? It goes like it went early every year because preseason and time in pads is so inadequate for training guys in these situations, when there is a lot of turnover and you have some young guys. They have played pretty well since Buffalo overall, and they are definitely not elite. DB is elite. Horn can be. Is at times. There isn’t that much past those guys. I am not trying to wave the flag for him, but he has gotten scraps to work with. Whoever was DC I’d feel the same about as far as what he has had to work with. That DJ Johnson deal was a bad look for him.

Nice hospital ball, Ty.

This is silly. Not worth arguing.

Canales was basically forced to act. Thielen and Johnson were pitching public fits. Who knows what was happening in the locker room when that is happening in full view. It really does appear that they sheltered him from competition.

He's definitely in my top 5. Maybe top 3.

It is time to accept that we casual fans are simply inferior to the big brained Bryce believers. They have been telling us this for three years.

TT is fuggin nasty especially on defense. Their offense is good not great but they are definitely legit

Dukes schedule was very light on completion and they were beat by every decent team they played. ACC needs to fix the scheduling

Purdue got absolutely rolled at home. Wow

My favorite uniform combo. That blue and black will always pop.

Gamble is my favorite Panthers CB of all time. The same way he was quiet during his play, he’s been equally as quiet in his retirement. Heard he’s doing well for himself in retirement; just living a peaceful life.

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Look at the schools playing in the big12. Acc is better They played mostly lower tier competition outside of conference. The only ranked win I can find is iowa st vs iowa 16-13

BYU got fraud checked pretty hard. Didn't feel like TT played particularly well and they still completely dominated. That BYU QB is basically bad Carson Beck when he has to throw the ball more than five yards. Their entire offense seems to rely around him running and throwing passing around the LOS. That's a tough row to hoe against good competition.

Like I said, yup. Corbett is a good player but it's that consistency thing... oft injured at that spot doesn't help. He'd make a heck of a back-up and swing guard, but not at the current salary. Mayes either has the chops now or he is developing into it. We need to get him to the regular starting spot before he gets to that free agent period and suddenly becomes to expensive to throw bucks at without knowing his true potential. But yeah, Centers are way, way undervalued. And I understand it. Good teams keep their centers under contract for a decade, they rarely end up on the free agency market and get little fanfare when they do. It's just not sexy I guess. But like a MLB or a punter, if you don't have a good one, you're fugged either now or soon.

No idea how TT would fare versus an OSU, but it would glorious if they won. Absolutely not a blueblood, and it's too bad Mike Leach isn't around to enjoy this run.

Mayes might be the most natural center we have on the roster. I don't count Corbett anymore because he's hurt too much. Paradis was coming off major leg injury, we had Bozeman and that was horrific. I was told repeatedly by many on this board anyone could play center and we should focus resources elsewhere. It's been the Achilles heel of our line for a long while now. Finding the QB of our line needs to be a priority this offseason.

It's actually fairly impressive that Alabama and Georgia are as successful as they are without any real NFL QB talent. I mean, I get that the rest of their roster is stacked and packed with NFL talent.

Brother, that is simply not true.

Acc is better than the big 12. Duke would give tech a better game than byu is

i don't know if Texas tech is good but they're clearly much better than byu

BYU having a full meltdown.

Miami and ND at home crying. Their chances are basically done. They need a BYU miracle. *My fault, I'm not half ass paying attention. It's a BYU win that would throw a monkey wrench.