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Ready to see the besties reunited (CJ and Bryce).

I am assuming they met Jimmy, not JC

Brother you're unwell. Emojis can't hide it. Get some help.

Son, I am still sharing content and being excited about the team. You're the one pissing your britches over getting a poo reaction on an old message board. Though I do appreciate the well wishes for my family. Good luck to you trying to tell everybody when they're allowed to be excited about Panthers football or when it's appropriate to poo react someone.

Panthers’ Xavier Legette learns a lesson, WR competition heats up and more ‘Unguardable’ with ‘freaky lateral quickness’: Hunter Renfrow returns to where he broke out

They definitely have had some bad luck but two things can be true and it certainly seems Daboll is in over his head at this point.

Once again. Early in the AM you're all pissed off pooing posts. Calm down. You know there isn't a poo reaction for life right? You gonna poo the world if and when the Panthers season inevitably derails again this fall? It's not even late August and you're ready to spontaneously combust. Slow down. You did the same thing last year. You were toxic to anyone skeptical in the leadup to the first two games then you went missing. This can't be healthy for you or your family. Again. Good luck.

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Oops, nm. Folks already clarified the Turk story was from his time in KC with Tillis.

Sheena is in Houston and I'm assuming some of the other beat writers. Expecting things to pick up between 9am ~ 10am. I've got a meeting during that time but will try to catch the thread up (as needed) afterwards!

You're gonna get pooped on until you stop being an asshole.

I seem to remember we were told to not worry about the Jets dismantling us in preseason with Reich because we did so well at joint practice and that’s what really mattered and we were holding back since our first two games were division games. Until proven otherwise, I’m happy football’s back but I’ve go low expectations. Definitely feel better than last year but we have no margin for error.

TMac is my biggest question. Is he going to be our Justin Jefferson or is he going to be Michael Pittman. We need JJ, we can’t survive Pittman. We can’t basically throw away another top 10 pick on average. At some point we can’t keep drafting Iky, Horn (if he stays injury prone), Young, trade #1 overall and maybe TMac. XL wasn’t top 10, but he was also a recent 1st rounder. Our most talented draft pick since Brown (who went 1 pick after Herbert), is a bit disappointing because he’s missed so much time and we didn’t get to savor a rookie deal. Last two SBs were in part due to drafting Peppers/Gross and Cam/Luke with back to back top 2 and then top 10 picks. We had two top 2 picks and got Young instead of say Jalen Carter and Williams or Daniels. At our talent level, TMac has to be our JJ or Mike Evans or else we will tread water at 5 wins again.

Or, just offer sheet Rossi.

I think we will end up starting him. I don't think A'Shawn Robinson was bad last year but he also wasn't very good. And we invested heavily into Wharton. It would make so little sense for him not to be a starter.

That's true in theory but poor management can lead to very long stretches of poor results. The system itself IS indeed set up to have parity and allow some level of fairness in building a team. But, history has proven time and time again that it is possible to be so inept you screw that up. That's really at the back of most Panthers fans minds. Are we one of those teams now? It's not looking great.

Thank you. Knew I was missing something

I think Daboll's career success will prove to be a result of being with Josh Allen and the Bills rather than vice versa.

His defense in year one was a bit of a paper tiger in some respects but the talent drop off in year two was bananas. He has to recover significantly from last year to survive, IMO. And, TBH, it's not gonna be with tremendously more talent. It's a tough spot. I do think he is as equally to blame as the FO.

Daboll is an interesting case because at the end of his first season Daniel Jones had a career year (granted 15 passing TDs is underwhelming) and looked set on taking the next step, and Saquon Barkley had his best season since his rookie year. Things looked positive. However, fast forward a year and Daniel Jones flopped and got injured playing behind one of the worst OLs in NFL history. They tried again with Daniel Jones and he failed again (4th time in 6 seasons). So is it the case that Daboll is a bad head coach or is it more accurate to say he got stuck with a bad quarterback? I think part of Daboll’s problem has been the quarterback. Granted that doesn’t account for the OLs struggles and any other inconsistencies, but I think had Daniel Jones kicked on in 2023 then the view of Daboll would be very different. Time will tell if working with Russell Wilson and Jaxson Dart will save his head coaching career or end it.

Brandt's comment about Wharton was from his KC perspective when Wharton was a UDFA rookie. "it goes back to the anecdote that Brandt Tillis had when he was in Kansas City. And it would be so easy to just cut Turk Wharton in 2020 when he was an undrafted rookie from a division two college in Missouri. It would been so easy to cut him because then he would have cleared waivers easily. No one knew this guy. They didn't have any joint practices, didn't have a preseason. Would have been so easy to cut him and bring him back on the practice squad and let him continue to build from there. And Brandt essentially said, "No, he's got to make the 53man roster if we're going to have any sort sense of credibility with this team."

Plenty of us were scratching our heads about that signing at the time. Especially with our 3-4 defense. Wharton is kind of a one trick pony situational five tech DT. He doesn't have the beef to hold up against the run and he doesn't have the juice to shift outside. He's basically a situational pass rusher DT. If we paid him $40M+ and he can't start for a historically inept defense then holy poo...

Agreed. 300 and 2 or 3 total in Jacksonville in a winning effort would sure be a nice start.