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Kind of surprised nobody from our oline made the top 100. That being said, I don't think most people on ESPN could name 3 players on the Panthers

also, as far as Horn goes......if you predict the Panthers are going to have a trash pass rush....it's tough to predict a corner on that same team is going to have a strong year.

I think it depends where they pick and how well the entire team performs. If the team as a whole looks decent they are more likely to go the veteran QB route. Taking a QB in the first round doesn’t always guarantee more time, ask Frank Reich. There is always an average or above QB floating around each year. If they can get Arch Manning or something than sure.

I don’t see us getting a 4th. But i hope im wrong. Im also sorta indifferent on this trade. Not really for or against it.

Looks like the Eagles cut McCord. Wouldn't mind us picking him up to replace Plummer

Just so we're clear. The discussed compensation for a 35 year old player who won't be here next season was a 4th. We recently took Etienne and Ransom in the 4th and both look promising. Are you suggesting they're scrubs?

Yeah, positional value is a big factor here, hence why a lot of our premier players aren't there. We have most of our strengths at non-premium positions.

As opposed to having a roster full of random 6th round scrubs who can't play?

I don't think the NFL views Horn as the player that we do. Remember, availability is an ability. TBH, if we had let him hit the market, I don't think you would have seen a ton of longer term contract offers precisely for that reason.

Oh, I fully understand that. And you don't make the list if you didn't do anything of real note last season. There's stuff we took note of because, well, peanuts in turds, but the rest of the league's fans overlooked it, as well as the serious sportswriters. If we want to make these lists next year, then we've got to actually do something and win some games.

Chances Flojo and the OP are the same person?

Panthers starters average age: 25.59 Texans starters average age: 26.08 Regardless of the Thielen trade or no trade the Panthers coaching staff have got to elevate this roster. It's inexcusable looking at the shape our division is in currently.

https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1959716836691640525?s=46&t=NTOau-_hpsu4a1jjGOhWmg I’d kick the tires on Jamin.

Curious to see the guaranteed portion. That's a wild price tag.

Who the f**k wants their left overs

CB room could use some upgrades. Hopefully we look at something there.

I'd like to see that, all season long. Not just Pitts

It's not about age, it's about just having more than a year of experience like the rest of our WR room. A 27 year old player who has been in the league for 4 or 5 years could very well be a mentor, if they're the right type of player/personality. If nothing else, just watching how Thielen goes about his business would be beneficial to our super young room, not because he's 35, but because of how he does his job. But he's also proven to be a willing mentor over his career, which makes him that much more valuable, again, not because of age, because of everything he brings to the table. And no, you don't NEED players like that to be successful, but when you have them in house, and you have 1st round WRs in the last two years and two other WRs are an UDFA and a 6th rounder from the last two years, then you shouldn't be jumping at the chance to trade that player away for a fair market value. He brings more to the team than a 5th rounder next year does, and quite probably even a 4th. If the Vikings don't want to give us a 3rd, or a LB or DB, then I don't see trading him helping the team this year or in the long run.

That's a bargain right there

This^^

sorta like when gnats buzz around your face

Look at a team like the Texans who already have two playoff wins after being one play away from the first overall pick less than 3 years ago. Their oldest backup QB at any point since drafting Stroud is 26 years old. He also has a playoff win. Their wide receivers have never been older than 31 and that was Diontae Johnson last year as nothing more than a depth move after an injury who is anything but a veteran mentor. Beyond that virtually every receiver has been 23-27. They have one guy right now who is 29 the same age as Renfro. They have talent but they do not have head and shoulders that much more talent than the Panthers and they do not rely on aging veterans to a fault. At some point we cannot keep making excuses for our FO and staff.