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Those are generational talents.Tough isn't the correct word here, think near impossible.

Its a combination of things. Most of these kids are going to bad teams unprepared for the massive responsibility they are undertaking. College does not prepare them for that. In college the come into a program that is nearly always successful and they think they are the reason for that. The truth is they are just continuing there success by not playing like ass. When they get to the nfl they are expected to make an already bad team into a playoff powerhouse. Very few rookies can overcome that pressure without a really good coach who can put the right pieces around him to maximize any potential he may have. Not many young qb's can survive that and be successful. Its the nature of the beast called the nfl.

I've still got to watch the second half to watch, but the first half those two plays were both really bad for different reasons. The ball behind TMac (that he still should have caught, you expect your top-10 WR to make that catch) was especially egregious not because Bryce threw it behind him, but why he threw it behind him. Some have suggested it was because TMac was supposed to settle instead of drift over but the all-22 shows Bryce hesitate to pull the trigger when he had the initial look before hurrying up and trying to get it out. He showed that a looooooot during the end of his rookie season after getting beat up behind the OL for an extended period. Seeing it already in weeks 3 + 4 is really, really bad. Can't be seeing ghosts to the point of messing up mechanics like that if you're the #1 overall guy in year 3 The throw into three defenders looked like those identical INTs to start years 1 + 2. Don't even need to point out how bad that is to see a third time.

Deep throws are there. You insert a different QB and that QB just looks to execute them. We have seen that every year when Bryce gets benched. Datlon will push the D back and crank it 30 or 40+. Issue is Dalton is just washed.

There is still a cult on Twitter. But their narrative now is that he will go to another team and become a star so they know he is just about done here.

Part of me thinks that there’s not just a panthers issue with developing quarterbacks, it’s a league issue because all the top quarterbacks are from a whole different generation now when it comes to NFL life. College talent in general has been wonky since Covid and all the super seniors. Disconnect somewhere

Yep I mean that’s what it comes down to. Analyzing this in a play-by-play manner doesn’t help (although I’ll still respect those who want to dig into that mess) When you have someone who inhibits the plays you can deploy, the concepts you can scheme in, it’s such a limiting factor and you won’t rise out of it until you try another guy at the spot. He limits the entire system down to physical, unchangeable traits… we are restricted in what we can run, and he can’t even run the limited playbook effectively. So that’s why I stopped bothering with play-by-play looks. It’s clear it’s the bigger infrastructural issue.

Having a guy like that is desirable sure. But we will have to settle for competent until we stumble onto a guy like that.

problem w/ the Phins and Jets games....is they have dynamic runners on the ground. Both teams got dudes that can take it to the house from 80 out

Well, we’re talking about the panthers.

There were times Zavala didn't even get touched and his guy flew around him. The play where Bryce threw it into the DL's facemask he got blasted by Zavala's assignment. Sucks too because Tremble was the right read over the middle. He looked outright overwhelmed like his rookie season all over again. It's very concerning seeing multiple players regress, especially on the offense. That's supposed to be Canales' wheelhouse.

Every team that doesn't have a qb of that nature is looking for one. That's about 28 teams.

Was listening to fan 99.9 this morning on YouTube, and the guy speaking was spot on with what Carolina needs. We have to have a qb that’s a program builder/changer. A qb that can come in and pretty much change the culture of the program. Man, we had that with Cam. For this thing to work, the panthers have to find a QB of that nature. A Cam, a Burrow, Allen, etc. It’s tough to find, but the panthers have to find that. I don’t trust Morgan to find that player though

Folks have different opinions brother. Its okay to disagree now and then. I don't necessarily agree with him and as someone who was skeptical of him translating to the nfl I was willing to see it play out. I think that experiment has ran it's course and I need it to be over.

He did a pretty good one last year I think. He does watch the film, at least I think it was him that said you can’t give a good take without doing that and plenty of guys were not watching film before giving their takes. I might be mistaking him for a different analyst. Much better version is for sure a relative term.

you gotta think the locker room would fuging revolt at that idea "wait, that little dude is our qb for the next 2 years? Yeah no dawg get me out of here"

and the overthrow to renfrow and the 2 throws into the dirt one on 4rth down. There is a laundry list of poo throws from Sunday

There's like... two defenders over top and another four intermediate. They're covering deep. If folks want to call out Bryce for playing poorly, the two plays that have stuck out the most so far that I've seen from the all-22 were the throw that was behind TMac and the one that he tried forcing into three Pats defenders that was almost picked. Those were both bad for different reasons, both of which were issues prior to his benching and of major concern seeing them already in year 3. Will be covering both of those when I get home and able to get the videos.

He should be cut today. The idea of giving him two more years is bonkers. He's never shown anything.

Kyle Bailey and cohost said yesterday that they absolutely would pick up the 5th citing drew brees and sam darnold as examples but they would bring in a vet to compete. Wtf are people watching? Is this all a giant suck up to tepper. People can point to darnold and brees but they overlook the vast wasteland of poo qbs that never worked out, mac jones, kenny pickett, zach wilson the list is endless. Keeping bryce and hoping he turns into a top 10 qb is akin to winning the powerball, the odds are overwhelmingly against you. and anyone using sam fuging darnold as an example of why we should keep bryce needs to have their head examined. The dude has been the same player his entire fuging career. Shows talent then mentally implodes at the faintest sign of pressure

At least tag me if you're going to try and throw jabs.

No need for further speculation IMO.

The sooner this team realizes we are 3-5 years away from building a playoff contender the better. We should be trading back, loading up on picks so that when the time is right, we can strike. That goes for bringing in veteran Free Agents as well. We shouldn't be spending money yet. It's not our time. Trade back, build the core with multiple draft picks and wait to strike when the iron is hot.

They used to play well agaisnt bad teams but they have purged too much talent to keep thr HC's guys IMO. I think they show up half alive and just blame it on the injury. We have 2 good CBs but they get zero help from behind. It really doesn't take much more than 3 decent options but yeah it would be easier with Hill. Meanwhile double Tet and play the run is all it takes to shut us down. This and the Jets game will determine if we are picking top 10 or top 5 IMO.

Just like we should of have done when we picked BY... Trade back and collect picks!! We need help at lots of positions! And I wouldn't be scared to ask about Shedeur Sanders.