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Wasn't much of a scuffle, just Lewis absolutely mauling Wharton in one on one drills and Wharton not much caring for it. Man, Wharton looks tiny compared to Lewis.

details on the McGary injury. Just found out their backup RT is also out. Atlanta Falcons right tackle Kaleb McGary will miss time due to a leg injury he sustained Wednesday during practice, a source told ESPN's Jeremy Fowler. McGary was carted off the field before the 11-on-11 portion of practice Wednesday but was not fitted with an air cast. A team spokesperson said after practice that McGary was receiving an MRI and an update would follow "at an appropriate time." The Falcons are still determining the length of McGary's absence, but "he's out," the source told Fowler. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46038672/source-falcons-kaleb-mcgary-miss-leg-injury McGary's backup would have been Storm Norton, the Falcons' reserve swing tackle. But Norton had surgery Tuesday on his ankle and will be out for six to eight weeks, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46038672/source-falcons-kaleb-mcgary-miss-leg-injury

that punch to the chest on the second rep was stunning.

ESPN analytics has AT with the 135th YAC rating out of 149 WRs in the NFL last year. Dead last in Carolina. 274 out of 312 the year before. Dead last in Carolina. NFL Receiver Scores - ESPN Analytics it is a AT thing. Despite being bad, AT actually occupies the WR spot where YAC production is most easily generated by players. Should be easier for AT than XL on the outside (in a Dave O w/ BY) The most productive WR position in a Bryce Young O likely SHOULD be the slot. Not out wide. Which is why you don't want AT dominating it. Because he can't do anything with it accept meet the floor of plays. An ideal BY passing O would favor the slot, TE, and rec RB given what his arm is and how he plays the game (which we all largely agreed the short quick game was our direction when we drafted BY). Every spot and role is different based on scheme and QB. Slot w/ BY should be a YAC centric spot.

Worked for me, that was a nice little scuffle

The team has been extremely fortunate during training camp at avoiding season ending injuries. A positive sign for the upcoming season

We don't say this type of thing out loud. We quietly enjoy it.

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Don't know the timeline on this, I thought Damien was injured. l like the fight in Wharton, but Damien is a bad man. Teammates quickly broke it up https://packaged-media.redd.it/kf2iz0bzv9kf1/pb/m2-res_480p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1755813600&s=bc0c43be8958f6d3ac65095ebede26cadda344fe

Its "gameday..." I get why you dont play the 1s but Ill be damned if Im going to schedule my evening around watching a team not trying to win with dudes just praying to hang on

If the over/under was the midrange of your prediction, I'd be tempted to drop significant change on under 8 wins.

Good news.

Hopefully nothing goes astray tonight. This is one of the most fortunate preseasons I can remember in terms of injuries. Hopefully this bodes well and continues into the season.

The reality will likely be somewhere in between. I don't expect we'll blow the doors off the NFL this year, but I don't think we'll be trash either. I see 7-9 wins.

Let's fn go Tommy! One step closer to a healthy 1st string for opening day.

Finally!! Had me nervous there.

Of those 40+ target guys for YAC/Rec, AT was only behind J. Sanders, Hubbard and Coker for 2024. In 2023 it was Hubbard, M. Sanders and Mingo. So, in a lot of ways, it has been the WR's(Chark, XL, Diontae, D. Moore, etc) that haven't been producing those YAC. Not claiming AT is a YAC guy at all but, as so many of us keep saying, it's not AT that's the issue. It's the guys that are supposed to be outproducing him.

Per me

This is about getting open and YAC....and the QB we have. You basically are just highlighting average depth when targeted vs 2 players. . And yeah, I often say AT is a small slow reliable TE in terms of what he does for us. That's what he is. I think a couple of you want to make this into a Renfrow argument. I'm a Renfrow fan. Renfrow does not check the box of what a BY O needs either at the slot. Renfrow just a niche roleplayer at this level. it's easy to look up how horrific AT is with the ball in his hands and in terms of getting open.....and it's also easy to look up what a low ceiling of an offense the steady AT diet produces w/ BY.

The one time he's actively tried to lose was the best we've ever done.

I simply acknowledge BY is the QB. And just like we did when we drafted him.....the type O you would need to setup around him for success was always pretty simple. But we have done virtually the opposite. XL dropping some passes isn't why we were ranked the 32nd O and 30th passing the past 2 years. *Ricky Prohel was brought up only in regards to role function he served on the team. Niche/specialist. He wasn't eating up the snaps in the O. AT should have a similar snap %. People could MAUL Ricky Prohel and put hands all over him. We got to the Super Bowl in part because we were mauling guys (our slot CB). You can't do that now. AT has a MUCH easier life and still can't get open. Or run. If you live in 3 WR sets, with a weak armed QB, and you choose to put someone who can't get open or run in the slot.......well, your are going to have a weak pass O. That's by design IMO.

Thielen's yards per reception was higher last year than any of Renfrows career. His per game productivity last year as an old slow receiver the same as Renfrows 1 good season. These things are easy to find.

With 1 more game but yeah hopefully Canales is better, obviously Rhule sucked. Better than Reich though and jury out on DC. Of course Wilks’ interim stint was the best we’ve had since 2017 but I give Tepper zero credit for that

I turned on Youtube TV at work last Saturday afternoon and was a little bummed the game wasn't on NFL network and then I looked at Twitter game posts and was like never mind, then I tried to watch the "highlights" on Youtube a couple nights ago and turned that off after about 30 seconds lol.

Its funny how quickly my mindset went from: ITS GAMEDAY, LETS KICK SOME ASS to Its gameday, Please don't make me embarrassed to be seen in my Panthers gear.