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You missed the multiple interceptions, off target throws, etc. which is fine because it's camp, but he's still got some of the same issues cropping up.

Didn't see a team that really scares me if these guys become what I think they can!!Coach is a Hit them in the Mouth kinda guy or he gives me that impression anyway. Long Season and I Believe!!! Go Panthers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fans were allowed at camp until this year soo....

The first part to being the best version of yourself that you can be is taking an honest inventory of your strengths and weaknesses. No one screws up on purpose. They make mistakes that typically they find out about after the fact. So the goal is to be honest with yourself and then pick a path to get better results by doing things differently. Frankly I appreciate him acknowledging that he went on cruise control at times and didn't put in the work last year and he is committed to getting better. If more players were less defensive and more honest with themselves there would be a lot more growth and much less regression because most players don't want to look at anything but their success.

Coker is nothing close to Theilen. Come on man. The closest thing the Panthers could get to Adam would have been Matthew Golden.

Jackie Lee's post is a reminder that NFL football arrives tonight, the Hall of Fame game. And a reminder....one week from tomorrow is our first game

Light contact training camp practices heavily favors the speedsters. Ultimately the truth will come out when the real games start in the regular season.

Armanti Edwards made a lot of plays in camp as well. And I'm an App State fan. Camp means nothing in terms of individual performance in season. Preseason games mean next to nothing in terms of individual performances; though wins and losses do seem to correlate to team success. I want to see him succeed and the team to succeed but we've run this experiment before. We also had DJ Chark who is incredibly similar to McMillan.

Guess Terry Bradshaw handled it fairly well! https://edgefoundation.org/terry-bradshaw-the-evolution-of-a-super-bowl-champion-with-adhd/

I agree 100% with that assessment. We will see. I hope he does.

Meanwhile Matthew Golden is averaging about 25 yards of separation at Packers camp and making catches that are easy because HE CAN GET OPEN. He will make plays like this from time to time but at what cost? What will it cost Bryce to get him the ball in constantly tight coverage? How many more sacks might Bryce take waiting for him to break open? We really should have looked at what Bryce had at Alabama and tried to work with that. The Dolphins did this with Waddle and Hill. Golden would have made so much more sense here.

This. My expectations aren’t too high this year. We want a LB, we can just wait to draft one in next years draft.

https://x.com/Schultz_Report/status/1950949117577822541?t=30fe2IrG3BpxlHFMyJIjYw&s=19

Same. Coker, imo, is the dark horse that no one outside of the Carolinas seem to be talking about.

Video games != Football Fields

You may be interested to know that the average depth of separation is dependent upon the type of route run. Though go-routes are the most type of route run, they also produce the least amount of separation (and, of course, completions). "The average pass catcher runs a go route on nearly a quarter of all routes (22.3%), the highest percentage of any route type in our data. However, those routes are targeted roughly 1 out of 10 times (10.8 percent), the lowest target rate of any route. The WR screen is the least-run route (3.4%), and it's the only route where the average target is behind the line of scrimmage. But it's also targeted at the highest rate (40.7%) and early in the play (1.6 seconds average time to throw). The most targeted routes outside of the WR Screen? The out (27.8%) and slant (25.2%) routes are the next most popular across the league." "The most valuable routes by expected points added per target were the post (+0.48) and corner (+0.43) routes. The go route (+0.19) ranked seventh on the list of 10 route types. The go route (+0.19) ranked seventh on the list of 10 route types. One possible reason for this: It's harder to separate on go routes, which put the player on a straight path, than on posts or corners, which ask the player to make a cut. Targeted pass catchers on posts and corners average 2.4 yards and 2.3 yards of separation from the nearest defender, respectively, while pass catchers targeted on go routes average just 1.8 yards of separation." https://www.nfl.com/news/next-gen-stats-intro-to-new-route-recognition-model#:~:text=Targeted pass catchers on posts,) and slant (+0.26). I would expect that Thielen would have an easier time catching the ball based that he runs the routes where it's easier to get open. Tet? Yet to be seen, but we may be better served getting him on some slants and crossers also. In general, receivers are going to average a lower completion percentage and yards of separation on certain types of routes than others, that's why we shouldn't necessarily be taking stats, even advanced ones, at face value, as there are dynamics that most aren't even thinking about. In terms of Tet, he's bigger and somewhat slower than a smaller dude, so you'd expect him not to have as much separation on go-routes, but his catch radius is massive and his hands are awesome. Hitting him in stride will probably be killer, but of course QBs are less accurate on go-routes according to the stats. Depending upon Tet's route versatility and how he is used, we could have a unicorn though. He's relatively fast, has great hands and gets YAC (and on an off note, if X can hold on to the ball, he's dangerous as well because he already has shown some separation ability).

What’s Horns speed??

Most elite WRs aren't necessarily burners. Not a lot of elite WRs in the modern era were 4.3 guys. If anything, sometimes it seems like the super fast guys use their speed as a crutch and it hampers their development in the intricacies of route running.

People saying the same thing 100 ways to avoid work.

I hope you are right. Fwiw, I sometimes think that when assessing WR's, fans and occasionally coaching staffs/scouts, get caught up to much in speed. Speed is great and certainly helps. But everyone involved in the passing game is fast. With a guy like Thielen, and hopefully Tet, they only need a couple of feet to be considered open.

He doesn't have to be a vet to hold information. His route running is still better than average.

idk if this would make sense for the Jags. BTJ is their #1, they traded up for Travis Hunter, and Dyami Brown is on a 1yr deal after showing promise in Washington (as well as Jags training camp). Coker would likely compete with Joshua Cephus for WR4. Doesn't seem like a very good transaction for them.

Basically it's 11 pages because two people can't accept this and have concluded that means that everyone else is stupid.

Moton has been our best player during the dark years but I agree with the general opinion here that whether he stays or goes is likely up to him and how much money he wants. For me personally, if I had already made over 100 million and wanted to finish my career here than I would accept the teams offer and finish my career here. I know not many people think that way and will get all offended over a few million but really, how much does a person need if you're happy?