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Yeah I find myself flipping between the worst case scenario of Bryce either playing just mediocre enough for our decision makers to justify giving him a contract extension in their eyes because they want to justify drafting him. Or Bryce going back to playing poorly and us having no one else to fall back on because Pickett might be decent for one or two games but there's no one else and our locker room starts to get ugly because we went all in with our salary cap and guys careers are on the line. This scenario which IMO is the higher probability given our schedule and the amount of tape out there on Bryce is why I say if we can trade down and acquire a few more mid or late round picks we should draft a developmental QB. Not looking for a guy to be the savior but someone with the necessary physical tools and who could actually run a QB sneak. But we'll just have to see how it shakes out. I just want a competitive team but the last thing I want is the season to fall apart because we once again threw our arms up in regards to the QB room.

^This. Rico was dynamite when we needed it last season, but not enough to keep but it massively upped his earning potential. It was a win-win for both sides. And he was there to cover the hole left by the injury to another RB, and hopefully his release to free agency means there's good news for us on the way. These new ones give us the opportunity to do that again, on the offensive line and elsewhere. We've got some long term question marks here and there due to injuries and age, and these players have a chance to up their value on the open market or settle down with us if the opportunity arises. And none of it ties us down with dead money down the road if it doesn't work out. And we've been in dead money hell for a decade now. Lease the ones you like, buy if you fall in love.

Our red zone offense was excruciatingly painful to watch last season. A half decent TE would do a lot to change that.

We have a Vezi and it’s not who we thought!

The 3rd through the 5th rounds are where the value is if we are interested. I really don't like the idea of Sadiq. While he's the top of the group, it's a depth year for the position. He would have been TE3, at best, in last year's group.

I can’t let this thread end without highlighting Walker’s great kick save! https://x.com/caniacchic/status/2032993789480976825?s=46

I’ve kind of soured on Woods and Banks. Give me Kayden McDonald but if possible id prefer if we trade to the mid 20s.

I hear you and I have said the same thing at times, but blanket statements are accurate part of the time at best. I have also coached kids who had the "tools" but they were slow and unproductive on the field--and a few adjustments to the scheme or teaching techniques, and the light comes on. We call them "late bloomers." Based on my limited experience, it should be called "coaching." As a former coach, if you gave me kids with the tools and I could not get them to perform at the level of their ability, then I have failed. The coaches know this, so their timetables to win may be shorter than the time they have to develop a player--I think a lot of talent goes down the disposal, which is why the success rate for drafted players is so low. In my view, based on my career as a professor and researcher, my job is to produce successful people for the workplace. I use data to identify central problems and I use my relationships with my students to strengthen weaknesses. I have a limited amount of time to do this before a decision is made about their development. In this case, I would look at the variables (data and the situational influences unique to this individual that may have stunted growth) and not the ineffective player as the center of the problem. The team has already interviewed him, talked to his college coaches, measured him, etc. So I would minimize the assumption that the kid is the problem and look at his system of support and teaching strategies. Nobody wants to admit THEY might be the problem. To blame a first-rounder for failing, you have to admit either you did not properly identify the prospect's potential (which is your job) or you were unable to prepare that prospect (with all the tools that got him the job) to succeed (also your job). So are we going to blame the 24-year-old kid with all the tools to succeed for sucking or are we going to take responsibility for his success as his mentors and teachers?

i was hoping they might bring robinson back but he went to the darkside. They will need to sign a free agent as Evero does not like to start rookies.

Flexibility. If they don’t work out we simply walk away. If they look great we have the first crack at extending them.

$9.9m cap hit this year, which is what we expected them to do. Backload the cap hits. Via @spotrac

https://x.com/2growls1roar/status/2033192496222687512?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

was curious about why all the one year deals. Does that help or hurt for next season in terms of resigning? it should help with the cap, I'd expect.

This thread makes me miss my "old" Mitchell and Ness Pro Bowl jerseys I had of Sam Mills and Kevin Greene from 1996. Someone broke in and stole them aa few years ago. I've not been able to find / replace them.

I am sorry. I must have missed it. I did not recall seeing one (I was very swamped the first week of March) and I did not search to see if it had been shared. I always appreciate your contributions. I would have simply added this spreadsheet to your thread. Either way, thanks to you, we now have a cornucopia of tracked visit intel. We are blessed with knowledge and insight!!

Everyone should ignore that 20m for inj as it's really fully guaranteed for all intents and purposes.

Double post.

But are they cheap and high quality? I'll see myself out.

Fully expect Lloyd's deal to look similar in structure to Phillips deal.

That 20m injury is guaranteed for all intents and purposes as it hits next off-season for 2028 salary. If he's on the roster for 2027, he gets the extra 20m of salary guarantees for the 2028 season. Considering his dead cap for 2027 is 50m, he'll be on the roster to get the full guarantee switch. Otherwise the guaranteed money is in 2026 and 2027 salary plus signing bonus. Can be cut with cap savings after 3 years to what essentially could be a 3 year 81m dollar deal. (He's got a cap hit of 38.75m in 2027 and 2028.)

Tools. If I hear that term used one more time I'm going to lose my damn mind. "Tools" are meaningless if they cannot use them already. Stop looking for "tools" and find productive football players. Stop looking for combine freaks and look for guys that have produced at a high level already. Tools my ass.

my thread wasnt good enough for you? lol

Sorted by Position Player Name Position College Draft Projection Nick Dawkins C Penn St. UDFA Austin Leausa C BYU UDFA Andre Fuller CB Toledo 7th Ayden Garnes CB Arizona UDFA Al'zillion Hamilton CB Fresno St. UDFA Marcus Allen CB North Carolina UDFA Rashad Battle CB Pittsburgh UDFA Elijah Culp CB James Madison UDFA Gavin Gibson CB North Carolina UDFA Daylen Everette CB Georgia 4th Darrell Jackson Jr. DT Florida St. 3rd Caleb Banks DT Florida 1st Brandon Cleveland DT NC State UDFA Landon Robinson DT Navy 7th Kaleb Proctor DT SE Louisiana 6th Gabe Jacas EDGE Illinois 2nd Romello Height EDGE Texas Tech 3rd Derrick Moore EDGE Michigan 2nd Mason Reiger EDGE Wisconsin 6th Kedrick Faulk EDGE Auburn 1st Delby Lemieux IOL Dartmouth UDFA Fintan Brose IOL Delaware UDFA Jacob Rodriguez LB Texas Tech 2nd Kyle Louis LB Pittsburgh 3rd West Weeks LB LSU UDFA Sonny Styles LB Ohio State 1st CJ Allen LB Georgia 1st Kaleb Elarms-Orr LB TCU 5th Reuben Unije OT UCLA UDFA Jude Bowry OT Boston Col. 4th Austin Barber OT Florida 4th Kage Casey OT Boise St. 4th Tristan Leigh OT Clemson UDFA Sawyer Robertson QB Baylor 5th Adam Randall RB Clemson 6th Jalon Kilgore S South Carolina 4th Jalen Huskey S Maryland 6th Genesis Smith S Arizona 3rd Justin Joly TE NC State 4th Ted Hurst WR Georgia St. 3rd Emmanuel Henderson WR Kansas UDFA Camden Brown WR Georgia Southern UDFA

The following is an abbreviated list of the prospects the Panthers have met with. The complete spreadsheet, including the locations and frequency of known meetings can be found in the spreadsheet linked below: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/138yxXgpawL2Fogx5M9OmXTdv2LJvlrya-mgM2YgBOb0/edit?gid=0#gid=0 Reuben Unije OT UCLA UDFA Delby Lemieux IOL Dartmouth UDFA Gabe Jacas EDGE Illinois 2nd Adam Randall RB Clemson 6th Jalon Kilgore S South Carolina 4th Darrell Jackson Jr. DT Florida St. 3rd Jude Bowry OT Boston Col. 4th Jacob Rodriguez LB Texas Tech 2nd Ted Hurst WR Georgia St. 3rd Caleb Banks DT Florida 1st Romello Height EDGE Texas Tech 3rd Austin Barber OT Florida 4th Jalen Huskey S Maryland 6th Kage Casey OT Boise St. 4th Justin Joly TE NC State 4th Derrick Moore EDGE Michigan 2nd Kyle Louis LB Pittsburgh 3rd Mason Reiger EDGE Wisconsin 6th Emmanuel Henderson WR Kansas UDFA Andre Fuller CB Toledo 7th Brandon Cleveland DT NC State UDFA Landon Robinson DT Navy 7th Ayden Garnes CB Arizona UDFA Al'zillion Hamilton CB Fresno St. UDFA Marcus Allen CB North Carolina UDFA Nick Dawkins C Penn St. UDFA West Weeks LB LSU UDFA Austin Leausa C BYU UDFA Tristan Leigh OT Clemson UDFA Rashad Battle CB Pittsburgh UDFA Elijah Culp CB James Madison UDFA Kaleb Proctor DT SE Louisiana 6th Gavin Gibson CB North Carolina UDFA Camden Brown WR Georgia Southern UDFA Fintan Brose IOL Delaware UDFA Sonny Styles LB Ohio State 1st Daylen Everette CB Georgia 4th Genesis Smith S Arizona 3rd CJ Allen LB Georgia 1st Sawyer Robertson QB Baylor 5th Kedrick Faulk EDGE Auburn 1st Kaleb Elarms-Orr LB TCU 5th