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	  Kaye: Panthers not likely to be "sellers" at trade deadlineMHS831 replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers I see that,but my focus is broader, which changes the logic (unless I am missing something here). If you like Rico and trade Hubbard, you don't have to let Rico go--you could sign him, have Etienne and Brooks and maybe even a late round draft pick--but you get an ILB, which is our biggest weakness--which is my point. If you isolate your focus on RB only and you focus on next year, it makes little sense to trade Hubbard--to me, you upgrade LB right now and you have RBs. I think we are constantly in rebuild or build mode, we don't think like those seeking rings. What helps us more--(and I am not sure about Hubbard's trade value, which was part of your point)--a backup RB (solid but still a backup right now) or a starting ILB? Which player fills our needs? So I could argue your point, but there are other perspectives that should be considered if you broaden the scope. It is not a no-brainer--lotta variables.
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	It Is a miracle
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	Probably gonna increase that 4th quarter differential this week
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	Cams end is tragic and ironic. Everyone assumed he would be in trouble when he lost his mobility. That he would have to learn to play from the pocket before his athleticism declined. But it ended up being the reverse. He lost his arm through injury and he couldn’t throw anymore.
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	Kaye: Panthers not likely to be "sellers" at trade deadlineAussie Tank replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers I'd like to be a buyer of a Jets or Dolphins pass rusher even if we're not sellers
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	  Is Canales digging his own grave?Tomcatn replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers I've got a brand new shovel that he can have
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	Miami GM was fired this morning.
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	Not even on the injury report, that’s quite the recovery
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	Valid. Cam was still able to be an effective dink and dunk QB(look at his NE time) but that isn't Cam Newton anymore.
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	I mean to be fair who can play QB without an arm? Even Peyton had to be carried across the finish line when he was chucking ducks.
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	1000%. Both among the discussion for greatest "scrambling" QB's off all time. But when you rely on that so heavily, it's devastating when it goes away. Look at Cam when he lost his arm. He relied as heavily on the dual threat of his howitzer of an arm and his massive physical size/athletic ability. Once the arm went, he was no longer an effective NFL QB.
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	The end result is the same when they lost their legs
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	Some of that is offense. I mean playing style. Look how often both of them extended plays by scrambling to hit long passes. Both relied heavily on that athletic ability to QB effectively.
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	Look how they’ve handled the RB competition. Bringing in a QB that is even remotely competent with an arm not made of overcooked pasta would cause havoc. Everybody knows when things are bad the most popular guy in town is the back up QB. Watching this staff have to answer those questions would be funny tho.
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	  Kaye: Panthers not likely to be "sellers" at trade deadlinekungfoodude replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers We don't have a lot of assets that most will want. The bulk that we so are basically no fly zones. I get the want to make upgrades but there are not likely to be cheap and available upgrades at a reasonable cost. It's possible but not probable.
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	  Panthers Sign QB White to roster; Christensen on IRWaldo replied to ProcessBlue2's topic in Carolina Panthers Just blame everyone and you will be right I guess. So freaking crazy
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	Our coaching staff has consistently struggled when it comes to in game adjustments. It's been a common thread the entire Canales tenure.
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	  Panthers Sign QB White to roster; Christensen on IRkungfoodude replied to ProcessBlue2's topic in Carolina Panthers Yeah. Andy deserves the blame for continuing to trot out there if he couldn't do it. He deserves the blame for holding on to the ball and making idiotic decisions. But....the coaching staff deserves a boatload of blame for these insanely moronic personnel decisions.
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	  Panthers Sign QB White to roster; Christensen on IRWaldo replied to ProcessBlue2's topic in Carolina Panthers So Hooker was active, Andy was 'hurt' and yet they didn't even play him when it was way over while Andy was dieing out there? WTF I agree. What a cluster fug.
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	-62 is absolutely nuts
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	  Panthers Sign QB White to roster; Christensen on IRkungfoodude replied to ProcessBlue2's topic in Carolina Panthers We had Hooker active. He is horrifyingly bad but, be honest, what was the thought process behind not playing him in the 4th? If he is that fuging bad that he isn't worthy of a couple of drives is an absolute ass whipping, how the fug has he even maintained a spot on the PS?? Overall, this is just more and more damning to the coaching staff, IMO.
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	Honestly, throw investment out of the window. For better or for worse, what we gave up would have to result in a Super Bowl or HOF or MVP or multiple Pro Bowls. He was almost always going to massively struggle with living up to cost. He has also been a massive letdown in terms of draft position, however. Enormously so. Zach Wilson level.
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	I don't see a whole lot of McNabb in Russell Wilson tbh. McNabb thrived in Andy Reid's west coast attack. Wilson was a play action chucker that scrambled like Fran Tarkenton. When Russ hit the NFL he was the only one doing that reverse spin move thing.
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	Wilson is the guy that the Huddle pines for. One of the best deep balls guys in NFL history. The issue is that much like his career comp I have made previously, Donovan McNabb, his age has killed his ability to scramble and that has MASSIVELY reduced his effectiveness. He was what the Bryce homers truly thought he was going to be, a guy that extends plays until the big bomb comes available. And we all saw how McNabb went out when his mobility went away. Enter....current Russell Wilson. For Wilson to have a career resurgence, he would have to completely change the way he plays the game and I am reminded of the "old dog, new tricks" adage. TLDR: He is washed. He will just make everyone but the WEEEEE LONG BALL guys infuriated.
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	  Kaye: Panthers not likely to be "sellers" at trade deadlineSmokinwithWilly replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers Ain't that the fuging truth.
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