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I still say Tepper’s flaw is bad hires….but the rest of the bad after that is his hires. I still say Bryce is a Panther front office issue (Morgan and company) more than anything. They are the folks that sold Tepper on Bryce. The face at the time was Fitterer…..and Fitterer got fired for the collective mess that was 2023. Mainly the Frank move who I think basically gave up practically. I don’t think any coach has ever wanted Bryce. Frank didn’t. Tepper didn’t get in the way of Canales benching and moving on from Bryce a mere 2 games into the Canales era……but Morgan kept the deck so the Bryce comeback could happen and then sold this season off it. I think Morgan peacocking about one random Bryce game speaks to the real folks dug in and wanting to be proven right on Bryce

I miss the days when people phrased things like this, instead of calling people trash, pieces of poo, and other personal type insults.

He’s not even good enough to be a backup imo

Bro wait until a real NFL QB is allowed to throw him passes, I still got hope for him. _______________________________________________________________ Regardless of his score this was Tmacs worse NFL game...

40 made some nice plays also. The D is not the problem

Martin-Scott continues the great production form this 2025 class. As a UDFA he stood out filling in as the 4th string LB. Even if Wallace comes back this week, they need to start Bam alongside.

“Stay with me, stay with me”

Can you imagine Bryce on a team where he accounts for a large portion of the cap lol. They need to bring in a vet and draft Dave's guy. Not any scouts not Dan Morgan's Dave's guy. Then if that guy fails you fire both Morgan and Canales

And that is a good point about the high balls. He has to angle them up so much and there is only so much real estate for ‘re-entry’. It doesn’t get back down quick enough. Unless you really float it and then you let defenders back into the play. edit this might be the scenario Gettleman dreamt of, with the really tall WRs.

I'm done with Sanders. That wheel to Hubbard probably scores if he even attempts to block the corner

Give me Allar or Sellers I'm not sold on either but at least they look the part and I think allar will be available late in the draft. Not sure how long he's out with injury. Then bring in a vet as well

If that's the case and they haven't given up on that pipe dream then just fire them.

I think yes absolutely that was the mandate. He wasn’t hiring someone like Frank that said they couldn’t fix him. I am gonna parse it the way I would discuss it with him, and that would be hey you know this is a tall order. I know what I am doing and will do my best and if he listens and does the work I can help him. But I can’t promise miracles and if he turns out to be a lost cause don’t blame me for it.

Little shitbird

Tepper has no problem getting rid of players or coaches. He was okay with Bryce getting benched last year, was fine with getting rid of Burns. He’s not going to force anyone’s hand or prematurely fire anyone this cycle. So when/if he goes coach hunting again, he doesn’t have the impatient asshole label. I think it’s more likely Canales and/or Morgan pitched that they could fix Bryce. Or would at least try to.

Dude is screwed. Go all Steve Wilks and win a couple more games in spite of Bryce……the org is going to keep him tied to Bryce. You got to at some point just call games as they should even if it means losing to get rid of Bryce IMO

Hell no to trading up! Miss me with that talk. Stay put and see who drops. If it's not a qb so be it. But under no circumstances should they trade up. I'm against trading for one personally but im not ruling out that it may be necessary. Just grab one in the draft somewhere and let him compete in training camp and if he's not worth a backup role cut his ass and move on. The point is you don't limit your options. Stop with the long term projects if they are not showing something immediately that would warrant the investment.

There is a world where we host the niners in the playoffs and the best chance to beat them would be not letting Bryce throw a pass

That's fair. The goal posts definitely moved after some of our wins this year.

Need a proper OC and a DC type guy being the HC. If he can’t call the plays he needs to bounce because this culture is too soft. Give me Rivera, or Fox type HC any day.

If that’s the case then canales and Morgan are blind, I want to believe that tepper is just chillin and letting Dave and Dan do their thing but they’re seeing the same thing we are but with a lot more information, film, advance stats etc and still think sub 200 yards per game and like 4 ypa is a winning formula? Would understand more if we didn’t just have a game where our RBs got a total of 9 touches while averaging 5 yard per carry, it just doesn’t add up

Yeah that was so stupid

Exactly. He’s going to have to look like Mahomes the next 5 games for Morgan to take the option. He’s more likely to get traded on his 4th year or go against real competition. I’m not a football executive but I’d really just get him out ASAP this offseason so there is no chance of having him come back in next year and fool everyone into another deal.

All ceilings are high if you're 5'9'x