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No you see here it’s the panthers pressure. with Bryce it’s the rest of the team failing him.

Greene was a free agent, both times. Lamar Lathon was expansion draft.

We could post the same type of picture for Bryce and his bad decisions haha

Yeah. So far it looks like we have 4 hits. It is early. plus the kicker and this new kickoff plan. And we got some good out of the late pucks last year. Mike Jackson is basically our 7th, CSW and Coker salvage some good from it even if XL and Brooks bust. Wallace is possibly going to be better. 8 or 9 starters out of two drafts is really good.

This was a pick six

Every qb struggles under pressure. That's why they pay pass rushers so much.

I cannot remember back that far. The history of the team goes back further than Greg Olsen. But the history has not been all that good either so wtfk.

Penix struggles under pressure. This dates back to college. He looked great against his Pac-12 defense and then when they made the playoffs against a good defense he looked erratic like he did last Sunday. If you can force the Falcons to pass and get pressure on him you should have a good day. Their strength will always been the running game with Bijan as long as he is there. The David Moore hate confuses me too. Depth vet who can play special teams and do the dirty work like blocking. He is on a pretty reasonable contract as well.

Lmao fuging Pythagoras on Reddit out of nowhere

On the huddle, you’re either Jerry Rice or you’re worthless. He came into the season as the #4/5 receiver but Coker got injured and XL shat the bed. Could be a lot worse than David Moore.

We didn't trade for Greene? I don't think we traded for Lathon either, but I don't remember him as much.

Mateer is having hand surgery and could miss a month. Then he has to jump in to a tough part of his schedule. Mendoza has a chance to run away with the Heisman race and potential top pick. I still think Dante Moore is about to get some attention.

Not to mention we probably get Wharton back in a couple games. I believe he is one of our better pass rushing DL. LB is still a glaring weakness, hopefully Wallace starts to put it all together (looked better last Sunday), but he still has a long way to go if he wants to be our long term solution there.

Also - Ransom is one of the rare cases of a guy I really wanted and we actually drafted. Never freaking happens and finally did with him so hope it works out ha.

Premiering right now. Cant wait to watch/listen later!

Lots of reason for optimism with some of the young players on defense. We’re a few guys away from rounding out the unit but the secondary has serious potential. Seems we’re playing better against both man and zone so far, but are still breaking when the pass rush and LB play has been off. ILB will be a big focus in 2026

Yeah we are gonna find out one way or the other I hope. I am of the mind that it will always be this compacted playing field style ball. Non opened up. And you put a guy with the real NFL arm in and it will be obvious, like it was the last two years in week three. if Bryce can do the legit job -not garbage time but in a competitive game - to the degree where people fear him… I will be surprised (and good for him if so). I think it is a tall order pun intended. We have to see some real proof, I hope, before they give him a huge contract. We wring our hands worrying that they will do that on less than rock solid proof that he can play up to it.

You’re not wrong, hopefully he proves us wrong. But it’s hard to have faith with what he puts on film. If he were to get more creative with his legs and open up avenues I think it could go a long way with us. But he definitely will never be a Josh Allen, Pat Mahomes when it comes to arm talent and ability to make things happen. the good news is big games have been won with ball control, and game managers at QB. So if we can put a roster around him for now we should be able to keep searching for that guy while he holds down the fort.

If everything is perfect, every QB in the NFL can throw a heater that isn’t too far downfield. Thats not how anyone on Earth talks about arm strength. Cam Newton had arm strength by NFL standards. Bryce doesn’t. It’s not complicated.

Whether it's consistently seeing the field his arm talent his mechanics it all points to a limited player that needs virtually everything to go right in order to possibly begin to overachieve or play at an elite level. Some people are willing to accept average at best but that's not what we're here for. This is a business.

Last year folks were gaslighting that Bryce was the best deep passer in the NFL despite not ever making plays downfield NOW, he has A+++++++ arm strength one notch down from Brett Favre S Tier arm strength? And people complain people are Bryce “haters” for arguing against all this type wildness lol.

I looked at him and his arm and his footwork, before he was drafted. It was clear then it is clear now. He doesn’t have an arm that can flick a ball down the field using only the arm. I don’t see his arm as good by NFL standards. I see it as something he must overcome. So I quibble with the characterization. What I completely agree with is if he does not do his mechanics and footwork right his velocity and accuracy suffers. If he is diligent and adheres to proper execution, yeah he can make do with his arm. That sort of is what it is at this point. Another aspect of it is he needs to use maximum effort to go downfield or to really drive a ball with any kind of heat. That (max effort) hinders accuracy. I have talked about this before. He is at a disadvantage having to max exert compared to a guy that can use a very repeatable easier throwing motion. Up to him if he can proof the pudding and hang with the big dogs.

In history? Going back to the beginning I would have to say Kevin Greene and Lamar Latham are just a few that are ahead of him. Even ahead of Olsen.

Mike Jack is the most underrated player on the roster. I don't know if he's actually that good, but he is thriving as CB2 in this defense.

I agree at this point winning at all is needed to restore some semblance of confidence and culture. But can we be honest with one another? I am in no way advocating for tanking because it isn't a realistic concept. But how many times now over these last 8 years or so have we won games that ultimately proved to be meaningless to our culture when we opened the following season looking like butt cheeks? Just beating up a bad team here and there or squeaking by a competitve team on occasion is not going to move the needle. Real culture change will happen with sustained success. That begins with competing for our division and the playoffs.