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ok..he's a certified entitled DOUCHE

eat a few nanners

he ain't coming here

4 teams in 8 years suggests he doesnt play will with others. Seems to be a malcontent wherever he goes. Yeah lets pass on this 31 year old expensive headcase

He won't make it through preseason before realizing this is not where he wants to be, for a variety of on and off field reasons, and we are trading him elsewhere for less than we spent to get him.

I agree also FWIW some random guy on twitter claiming to have sources in the organization said It's not happening

traffic was a nightmare coming into charlotte. My wife and I were driving back from Raleigh area and google maps detoured us like almost an hour out of way around concord because it was so backed up

Regarding Horn it's still very early so who can really say as of yet you know. I will say I've begun to wonder about our strength and conditioning staff.

Recent ESPN article suggested compensation says he will realistically fetch a late round pick. He will be 31 years old this fall with a 10 million dollar cap him next season that balloons to 21 million in 2028. So at most you're looking at a two year rental. When are we expecting to become competitive ie push for the playoffs? I just don't see such a move coinciding with our timeline. It really reminds me of the Gilmore trade in that regard. More of a Madden GM kind of move.

We don’t disagree on Theilen’s outlook, but he’s getting more PT than Horn this year. That feels like a near certainty to me. That’s why I posted we should stash Horn somewhere that will save us a roster spot but also keep him under contract.

So, is he coming to Carolina or what? Predictions? Is it already done and we are working out details? What do we think?

New Orleans? I thought San Antonio had the most beautiful women?

I don't know if I would go that far but definitely in the interest of Bryce's continued development we should all want to see Thielen 4th in receptions at most.

Honestly they need to limit how much he is on the field. He may be a crutch for Bryce

It's in the best interest of all Panthers fans that AT is 4th or 5th in receptions.

hamstring injuries suck so much

AT is a below average starter at this point with above average targets in an offense.

27 receptions 389 yards. That checks out.

I don't disagree for this season but my POV is that the coaches know he is on borrowed time and has at absolute most another season left in him after this. And while I am speculating I have to imagine that with the clear and orchestrated emphasis on getting younger across the roster the goal as the season progresses is to have the core of TMac XL Coker and one of our young TE's finish the season as the primary options on critical downs and in the red zone. That's not even mentioning the backfield and the pass catching ability there. We can simultaneously like Adam Thielen and also remain keenly aware he is very much temporary and here moreso to guide our young receivers and pass the torch. Same with Renfro. And if we are serious about actually competing for playoffs it's going to take those younger receivers stepping into key roles for it to happen.

He should be 2003 Ricky Prohel.

Yep - It's a balance. And actually targeting guys with production and being worth a damn is as well (DJJ :/). I'd say there's a line between guys on a tier block starting to be selected and you deciding to go up with the appropriate compensation versus what we've previously done. Which is panicking and grabbing whichever [positional need] is available at the top of said position groups at a unnecessary cost.

4th down game is on the line, Theilen is invaluable. I definitely don't think that is considered washed up. Toby Keith said it best, May not be good as I once was, but I'm as good once

not staying "patient" and taking bad draft day trades is how we end up with DJ Johnson and Matt corral

I’m not saying you’re wrong on what would be best for building up our young core, but I doubt Theilen returns if he wasn’t going to be an important part of our passing attack. He would’ve retired if he was going to be WR4 or less imo.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/nick-wright-says-hed-feel-172029113.html