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First I've seen. Some online sources are acting like it's news to them as well. Guess nobody pays attention to Florio anymore
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Update: Apparently this happened last year but may not have been widely reported... I don't remember seeing a thing about it
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Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen
kungfoodude replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't know if that is actually true. I am guessing those are not part of the equation but perhaps more meaningful reps for guys like XL and Coker are. -
That was several months ago. Florio had a story up about it.
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Level Of Enthusiasm Going into Game 1
Navy_football replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
So many unknowns. Excited to see what we really have, not what we could be - on paper. We should know by game 4. Game 1 is likely gonna be pretty ugly if I'm being honest. Hopefully Jax will be the same. -
Dude looks like Dom Capers' love child. Capers was DC for the Jags like 26 years ago so the math checks out.........
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Just saw a story that somebody shot a bullet into Andy Reid's office, looking for details...
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Level Of Enthusiasm Going into Game 1
PantherChris replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
I would say a 6 or a 7, but I have what I feel like are realistic expectations I don't care if we win a ton of games as long as we have a product that is WATCHABLE every week. -
Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen
Navy_football replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
This is it right here. This receiving group is getting way too much hype considering the unknowns and can't afford to lose the one proven guy on the roster. I could perhaps see letting David Moore go, but not AT. 2 rookies still learning the playback, and 2 second year guys that need to take a big step in development is not a group we can count on. And it's obvious that Renfrow still doesn't quite have his legs under him - or maybe this is his new norm? Unfortunately the 35 years old possession receiver is the only known we have. Well him and David Moore who I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the cut. -
Yeah, Rozeboom is one of those fill in/stop gap type vets who is in that good backup/marginal starter tier who is fine if he's the worst LB out there in your starting unit. But if you're counting on him to be your best you're in trouble. We really need Wallace to take a big leap this year.
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Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen
Khyber53 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Let's be completely honest about this... Our WR room is AT and a bunch of question marks. Thielen is the only guy we know who knows the route tree completely, understands play calls and can regularly get open/beat close coverage when necessary. He's long in the tooth, isn't the speediest guy on the field but he plays like a pro, starting level wide receiver. Xavier, last season looked great at first, but man he kind of petered out down the stretch and would disappear in a number of games. He wasn't reliable on routes or getting open and where he was supposed to be a king at contested catches, he often looked a bit intimidated. I'm not saying he's a washout by any means. Anyone with his size, speed and catch radius could make it big in the NFL, but can he do it? He'll need to show more than he did in the preseason before we can really rely on him as a WR1 or WR2. Coker was a revelation last season, he really played way above his (non)draft status and flashed multiple times in games and was a steady performer. What we need to find out, though, is whether he was benefiting from being an unknown that wasn't getting maximum effort from opposing DBs or if he was just outworking and outhustling everyone on the field. We should find out this season. We sure as hell didn't find out much in the pre-season (from him or any receiver or QB for that matter). He's still a question mark, but I think he has the look of the real deal. He might be this generation's next Thielen. Now, let's talk about Tet. High first round draft pick, first true WR off the board this year. Stellar career out west in college. Has the swagger of the WR1. And man, y'all are going to get mad about this but... he comes across as a mook. And in the pre-season he performed, well, not so great against poor opposition of second and third stringers. Yeah, he caught that one moonshot ball in the first game but really, nothing else lighting the place up. Rookie endzone drop in that game, too. He's still young and adjusting, I'm sure, but I was hoping to see something of a breakthrough kind of guy. I'm still looking. Hunter Renfro? Gosh, I hope he can make the team and make a comeback to his old form. It would be such a great story. But maybe neither one of those happens. We won't know until Tuesday and then, if he makes it past there it could be weeks. So, TL;DR: AT is all we can bank on right now. We couldn't afford to let him go considering the number of unknowns we'd be throwing out there for our QB, who himself is still an unknown. One thing to add: Our receivers coaching group has their work cut out for them. I hope they are up to the task, but the pre-season gave me little reason to believe in them. And I really need something to believe in here in Carolina. -
PFF grades from last night...Ransom had a night
PantherChris replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Same I think Randsom is a baller..... hopefully we don't have to suffer through 4-8 games of Scott blowing azz to get him on the feild. -
Linebacker is the biggest need - I hope we figure out a way to address it. Krys Barnes is the only one who even moderately flashed. Super nervous about Trevin/Rozeboom as a duo (Still like Trevin) I'd be excited if we had a better vet to mentor Trevin. Or a better younger guy to support Rozeboom. They just don't fit well and it may be a big problem against the run, even with our DL much improved.
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Tyson Bagent in one preseason game had more passing touchdowns than our whole QB room.
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Watch the others. I don't know if he's a good qb but he has a nice arm
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It's on a rope. There are other examples on x
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That's a 30 yrd pass. There's nothing extraordinary about that pass.
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Hate to break it to y'all but mediocre would be a significant upgrade over some of the guys projected to make our 53. There's at least a couple and maybe several names who will be on our 53 who aren't currently on the roster.
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Josina Anderson: Panthers NOT trading Adam Thielen
PadresPanthersFan replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
A lot of people imo are over valuing thielen. A 3rd round pick for a 35 year old wr 3/4 with 1 year on his contract and an injury history? Getting a 4th for him would be a coup. We got a pretty good young qb for less ( that we wasted) -
Look at the effort or lack thereof when he throws it. Look at the velocity of the pass and the trajectory. That's a serious arm.
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The pass only went 30 yards in the air. Every pro qb can throw that far.
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I'm not expecting us to find a diamond in the rough UDFA QB every year, but you have 0% chance if you bring back Plummer.
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Godalmighty that kid has an arm
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SO if you have never heard of him, how do you know he is mediocre? I pointed out that some players are better fits in certain systems. The implication is that you find the skill sets you seek and build the roster from the bottom up. Did you think we are talking about cut superstars?
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