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How many Qbs can you name better than Bryce Young?
UnluckyforSome replied to Jackson113.2's topic in Carolina Panthers
Starters only? I would take Young over anyone that is broken down and/or over the hill. So no Rodgers, no Cousins, no Smith, no Flacco. Not that a team can't win or compete but their time is over. I would take Young over some early-in-career qbs that have had little to no success. This would mostly be a zero-sum trade. So, no Fields, no Murray, no McCarthy, no Gabriel, no Penix. I might be forgetting 1 or 2, but that would be the gist. -
This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion)
electro's horse replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Slowik was a jumped up dork from PFF who got a shot to play real life madden, did some cool things his first year, then had no idea what to do when defenses adjusted (cautionary tale) tank dell had to be shot behind the stadium like a horse most important the Texans attempts to fix the offensive line have been the exact opposite of Carolina’s. None of their free agents or draft picks have worked out/stayed healthy. Stroud has been murdered and is having to play hero ball. Current offensive coordinator is just the latest piece of fruit to fall from the Rams coaching tree. And with all of that strouds performance buries Bryce’s. -
FSU WR's recently......not good. I know we dunk on XL but Coleman may want to be in the NFL even less.
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How many Qbs can you name better than Bryce Young?
csx replied to Jackson113.2's topic in Carolina Panthers
Statmuse is awful. It rarely shows the stat you ask for. We are 24 https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/stat/downs/table/miscellaneous/sort/thirdDownConvPct/dir/desc -
Yeah, I never said that he'll be just like new. I said I was surprised at how completely negative the sentiment is on this board and that there's still a good shot he can contribute again. As in a chance.
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I didn't realize Keon Coleman was a healthy scratch last night. The Bills basically went out there to play the #1 D in the league with no wide receivers because fug this guy THAT much. LOL This dude is gonna end up bounced out of the league pretty soon seemingly because he can't get to meetings on time. Good grief. That's about the dumbest way to piss away a 7-8 figure a year career possible.
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How many Qbs can you name better than Bryce Young?
cranky replied to Jackson113.2's topic in Carolina Panthers
That is weird. Regardless, 24 or 18th place, that's only about 1.4% ( 37% vs 38.4% )difference which is pretty insignificant overall. As far the QB ratings on 4th down, could you either give me the data or point me to were I can find it. Again, I am just going on what statmuse provided on 4th down numbers. Given how much more successful the Panthers have been on 4th downs than the Lions, I am curious to see how Geoff rates higher. Not trying to be argumentative. I am honestly curious. -
Because fug the Pat's, that's why
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This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion)
electro's horse replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Nico Collins hadn’t broken 40 receptions or 500 yards in either of his seasons before stroud got there. -
How many Qbs can you name better than Bryce Young?
CRA replied to Jackson113.2's topic in Carolina Panthers
that Packers dude I'm pretty sure went about re-writing the Packers record books.....and basically was never seen again. -
Only team with a winning record…
PNW_PantherMan replied to Diehardpanth02's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yes but with no blow outs of our own to even it out. I guess that would be pretty odd to have a team that either wins or loses by 30 every week and has ~0 point differential. -
Only team with a winning record…
PleaseCutStewart replied to Diehardpanth02's topic in Carolina Panthers
Our gameplan is pretty much hope that the other team fugs up more than we fug up. Somehow that strategy has resulted in a winning record (so far) -
Meh it’s something I’d feel confident betting on. The situation here was literally hell. It was horrible for Young’s development Young had guys like Hurst and Chalk who aren’t even in the league anymore. Mingo and Sanders might as well retire. The OL was a disaster. Reich’s scheme ran its course in Indy and got canned for a reason. Not in NFL anymore either. Houston is a complete team with real good pieces at the most important positions. Arguably best pass rushing duo in league. A top 10 corner. A top 10 WR. It’s a damn good spot for a young QB. This team gets murdered when Young doesn’t play. The beat Vegas that was it. Other than that the games weren’t even close. Meanwhile the Texans go 3-0. I mean even Stroud himself has talked about how he went to a much better situation
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Talking draft before Halloween is not good.
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How many Qbs can you name better than Bryce Young?
mav1234 replied to Jackson113.2's topic in Carolina Panthers
I'm not sure why StatMuse is showing that ranking there, it shows 24th here: https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/which-nfl-team-leads-the-league-in-third-down-conversion-percentage-this-season Which lines up with other sources, e.g.: https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/team-stats?category=downs&sort=o_3rdpct&season=2025&seasonType=reg&sortOrder=desc May be how ties are broken or something. -
Only team with a winning record…
UnluckyforSome replied to Diehardpanth02's topic in Carolina Panthers
That's fine and all, but I think you missed a little bit with what I was saying. It's not that your opinion doesn't matter or have merit, but I would think Bears fans feel exactly the same, that it shows they are growing and learning how to win, not just getting lucky bounces. In that way, we are biased, even to the point that will seek out data that will support our feelings and judgement. -
This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion)
PNW_PantherMan replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah I just don't understand this logic. Texans win 3 games without Stroud in 2025. Therefore Bryce would have made the playoffs with the Texans in 2023. -
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SmokinwithWilly replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Kinda had to. Was in response to Bryce would have duplicated Stroud's rookie season if he hadn't been drafted here. -
How many Qbs can you name better than Bryce Young?
PNW_PantherMan replied to Jackson113.2's topic in Carolina Panthers
Exactly. It's not that nuanced. We've seen plenty of QBs have really great games, and they just are what they are. They had a great game. Mike White's done it. Kyle Allen's done it. There's a million examples. Remember that Packers backup dude that had 1 good game and got a Seahawks contract out of it? Before Russ came in the same year and made him useless lol. -
We got blown out twice that's how it happens.
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PNW_PantherMan replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Don't even need to bring up the rookie season. Bryce has had absolutely terrible games this season behind a very good offensive line. I don't know why we have to attack Stroud and convolute 3 seasons of football. Lets just hope Bryce can string more than 1 game like last week together. -
How many Qbs can you name better than Bryce Young?
cranky replied to Jackson113.2's topic in Carolina Panthers
I got the 3rd down stats from statmuse. They show the Panthers at 18, not 24. I'm not trying to inflate his numbers to make him look better. I am just going by what I see in the table. If you have a problem with my claim he's about average, you will have to take it up with them. -
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SmokinwithWilly replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
You can't say that with any certainty at all. Bryce played the worst football of any rookie ever. His mechanics and footwork have nothing to do with Frank, DC or anyone else. All those ints and fumbles, yep, those are Bryce too. Bryce and Stroud are 2 different QBs. Just because Bryce had one complete game in year 3 vs Atlanta doesnt mean he could have led a team to the playoffs his rookie year.
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