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2025 Draft Re-Grades (Or, One Idiot Doubles Down)
Joe Bear replied to Joe Bear's topic in Carolina Panthers
He refuses to admit when he's wrong, so he simply creates alternative realities where his lousy prognostications panned out. Why would a player win OROY if he only played well for half a damn season? If T-Mac played well for half a season he'd have given the Panthers a D-... Another great example. From Week 1 to Week 18, he listed the Panthers as one of the NFL's most overrated teams. BY WHO? -
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Panthers Fan 69 started following Canes vs Blue Jackets part 3 7pm
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That same game wins. Please play Bussi
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You want play makers, regardless if it's in the slot or not. Any old JAG is not the goal. I'd think that they want Coker in the slot and a faster threat on the outside, but there will be some overlap regardless if they're playing chess on Sunday as opposed to checkers. Versatility is still a thing also.
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Dan Morgan on Up & Adams About Bryce's Future
Stuart Smith replied to XClown1986's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Hornets now sitting at the 8-seed.
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Magic and heat both lost. Take all the help we can get
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We'll be waiting until Lloyd is done coaching
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Dan Morgan on Up & Adams About Bryce's Future
CPF4LIFE replied to XClown1986's topic in Carolina Panthers
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We can't afford to draft inferior players out of need at the expense of a superior player based on need. If the board says this player will have more of an impact, you take the higher graded player irrespective of position. That is the whole reason why Morgan used free agency to set up the draft. If nothing else, Morgan has shown that he will address team weaknesses. Rome can't be built in a day. One-year rentals sometimes turn into long term productive players. If we don't get what we need this year, we'll get it the next. Moreover, there are seven whole rounds.
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It is. Even the mid to late round guys are super appealing and would have been ahead of Trevin in his drafft. Deontae Lawson - just look his stuff up, lot's to like Jimmy Rolder - absolute force. Limited sample size but the sample is pretty dope. (one of my favorite sleepers) Keyshaun Elliott - stud run defender, great size/length, is always wrapping plays up, high IQ. Even this dude Owen Heinecke is an interesting guy. Not some dog in the middle but will absolutely be an asset for particular teams (I.E. Minny would be an awesome fit)
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It's not explicitly saying it, it's suggesting that we draft a certain position, regardless if the receiver has the higher grade. We would never had made the playoffs without T-mac. Morgan did the absolutely right thing, and that's what I hope he continues to do in the draft, which is follow the board and draft impact players. He used free agency to set up the draft for just that purpose. For anyone that thinks last season was anything but an improvement, I don't know what to tell 'em. The goal is to keep the momentum going, and I'd say that addressing our three biggest needs with arguably the best players at their respective positions this free agency, and legit quality players to boot, goes along way toward building the foundation of long term success. Before free agency, no one was picking us to win the division, now more than a few analysts are, and that's before the draft. Pull your bootstraps up where you are and get to work. We aren't as good as we need to be, but the needle is moving in the right direction.
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The Bengals absolutely fuged up paying Higgins elite WR money. You can't have your QB and two WRs eating up your whole cap or you end up with... well, the Bengals. Your QB is getting killed because your OL is trash and you can't stop anybody because your D is trash because you can't afford a balanced roster. Unless you're smacking it out of the park in the draft you're gonna be hard pressed to put a good team on the field despite an elite QB and WRs.
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General Offseason Chat/News (& AI slop postings)
CarolinaLivin replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
https://x.com/scottbarrettdfb/status/2039409459680903231?s=46 2026 WR Class by Missed Tackles Forced per Reception + Zachariah Branch is not the "MTF machine" they told me he was, instead looks like just another screen merchant fraud + Jordyn Tyson not beating the allegations + Bunch of other projected top-75 picks in the death knell range -
Sure, but that’s because a 2nd rounder they drafted before Chase ended up becoming what he did. Higgins play put them in the situation, we’d be drafting a player with the expectation/hope that they pan out and thus putting ourselves into the situation. There is a big difference between the two there. Not a fan of drafting a player in the 1st round knowing we HAVE to trade him or another young player we like within a few years because we can’t pay them both (all). We were a sub .500 team, and while I love our FA’s so far, we still have far too many needs to use our 1st rounder in that way right now. If it was the final piece to make us a SB contender, sure, you do it and hope you win a ring in the first couple years and then who cares what you have to deal with, it got the job done.
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Meanwhile, entire OL is either aging, trying to come back from serious injury, and/or on short term contracts. A WR would very much be a panic prop Bryce up move. If you're actually trying to build a balanced long-term roster there's better arguments for most other position groups on the roster. We ha e a young stud in T-Mac. Another promising youngster opposite him and slot WRs can be found in the mid to late rounds or mid-level FA contracts. Slot WR at 19 given our roster would be crazy
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Mike Kaye: “I would keep a pretty close eye on {KC Concepcion}.”
csx replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
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I've said this a few times in the past few weeks, WR just cannot be on the board for us in the 1st round this year or we're just setting ourselves up for a problem in a couple of years. As it is, we're already looking at needing to do extensions for T-Mac and Coker (assuming they both progress as we all expect) in possibly the same offseason, or at worst, just one year apart. Adding another 1st round WR to that mix who will be eligible for an extension in the same time frame is basically already announcing that at least one of the 3 of them will not be on the team in 4 years time. I realize you want to maximize your team's ability every season, but using a 1st round pick on a player you either know will be sent out 4 years from now and/or they will push out another young player you're really high on (Coker), just would be a poor use of current assets. Just look at how much it screwed over the Bengals to have to pay Burrow, Chase, and Higgins all in such a short time frame, and at least one of them was a QB. The only way I'm okay drafting a WR in the 1st this year is if we're then flipping Coker for say, a 2nd round pick. And I don't want to trade Coker, nor do I think anyone would give us that high of a pick for him right now either.
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