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Sam Martin CARPunter#6 Panthers re-signed P Sam Martin to a two-year contract. NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reports Martin’s deal is up to $5 million. Martin joined the Panthers last season on a one-year deal and wound up booting 56 punts for an average of 47.2 yards per punt. Martin is a 13-year vet of the league who has spent time with four different franchises. He landed a career-best 48.2 percent of his kicks inside his opponent’s 20-yard line last season.

Surprised CB is that low. 19th is odd spot. For many recent drafts, teams only felt there were around 14 first round players. So to many 19 is just an early second and doesn't hold the value of a first. If you go off- the smart path of LT, QB, edge, WR, CB, etc. Whatever your OG, Safety, ILB, etc needs to be a difference maker, that's the key point. I've said the 8th best edge is better than the 1st safety. Same for QB and even WRs. You should 100% factor in position value. MHS you've been wanting a FS, let me tell you its super difficult to be a difference making FS. You're just sooo farrrr away from the action and the end result most times. If you're in the play, defense made mistakes in order. Now to talk out of both sides, maaaaaann that white boy from Oregon....I thought he crushed the combine and honestly that alone made me rethink "is he worth 19 now?!?!" he's now in the discussion for me, but still below others. Plus I feel TE is vastly underrated in value terms. But looking at the last 20 years of TEs in the first, its down right bad. You're better like X10 better drafting one in 4th or 5th.

This is always avvounted for in the draft. Positional value matters. Sime positions are more valuable than others and those positions are paid more and all else being equal drafted higher. https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/nfl-draft-which-positions-most-least-valued-over-past-decade

Pricey for a punter. 1 year deal?

@TheSpecialJuan or @CarolinaLivin start a seasons saved thread, Panthers re-signed punter sam martin, two year deal

$5 million

Top 25 performance based pay in #NFL #Panthers DB Nick Scott made an extra $1.26 million from last year’s campaign, because of the NFL’s Performance-Based Pay program, the league announced today. It was the fourth-highest payout from the program. https://x.com/mike_e_kaye/status/2033598538848862446?s=46

BPA!!! Wouldn't life be great if it were that simple? Need??? To some degree. I realize that we like life simple: Instant oatmeal. self-stick envelopes. I get it. BPA people: Go back and look at teams' needs in prior drafts--even when they scream BPA!, they end up drafting for need. I guess you should say, "BPA4U" (Best Player Available for Us). There are many variables. You should know the skill sets for your system. You should understand your locker room and gauge character. In my view, another consideration should play into your decision of how you rate a player to be the "best" and the cost of meeting your overall needs. All needs are not equal. The talent pool drops off and dries up at different points for different positions. Each draft is unique. We have inflation for some positions in free agency, yet the rookie pay scale is based on a formula that is not determined by position or player evaluations: The 1st overall pick receives the highest salary, with each subsequent pick earning less, regardless of position. Therefore, if you have seven needs, and three are at positions that pay veterans a ton of money--you should draft those players over those who play positions that would not save you much money. You have to consider the savings and what that means to the cap as a whole--not just focus on BPA or need. These numbers are based on the average salary of all players and then only the starters by position: Now take a look at what the players make based on the position they are drafted: Sorry they did this in pink. So let's say the Jets think Sadiq is the BPA on their board with the second pick. He meets their biggest need, aside from QB, but there are no QBs close to checking the BPA box. Are you going to pay a rookie TE $13m per year for 4 years ($52m guaranteed)? According to the chart above, a STARTING TE costs half that. So Need and BPA are not the only factors (this was an example only). It makes more sense to draft, especially in the first round, a QB, edge, WR, OT, or DT if they are one of your needs and one of the BPAs. At worst you are getting close to market value if they start. Looking at the Panthers needs, expected BPAs at #19, and cost vs. what a starting-level free agent makes, we are spending about $5m per year. Many of us want to draft a S there--if the rookie starts, we'd save about $1.7m per year. The difference would add a bottom-of-the-roster depth player. If we drafted a LB, for example, the difference is $1.4m. I see our needs (right now) as follows: S, ILB Will, OT, C, TE, and DT. Of those needs, a veteran starter at OT or DT would save us the most. For example, an OT veteran who starts averages $13m. We'd get the player for 4 years (not including the 5th year option for this) and we'd save $8m per year. To be honest, Walker is an average OT and we got him for a bargain at $10m. So if we draft an OT, we not only have a starter for next year (regardless of Ickey), we have 2 starting-level LTs on the roster NOW for $15m. If the OT we draft works out and we do not re-sign Walker, we save $8m x 3 years--$24m. So the BPA model might be the code you live or die by, but I ask it this way: Would you rather have a Safety and $1.4m in cap room savings or an OT and $8m per year cap savings? Both are needs. Both would be rated in the middle of the draft's first round. The OT and the $8m in savings would get you a starting OT AND the $8m would get you a starting free agency safety, if you think about it. If you step back and see the big picture, use the rookie scale to your advantage, you can improve your roster beyond merely taking the BPA, whatever that means. Looking at the Panther's draft, if they draft OT in round 1, DT in round 2, and both start, they could save about $16m of cap space per year when compared to what average veteran free agents would cost. LB, C, TE, and S can come later, if you follow this blueprint. I am not saying that I would draft based solely on this concept, but I am saying that it would be a variable--a big one.

nick just got a bonus- extra 1,262,216, dang that's a nice bag...

If we were a consistently competently run franchise yes. Unfortunately we are a franchise run by the Tepper's and you just can't put it past anyone involved not to give Bryce Young an extension for playing just mediocre enough to be carried to wins that he did virtually no heavy lifting in.

Build the best roster we can and if Bryce continues to be a weak link continue building that roster by replacing him. Bringing Pickett was a real disappointment. Felt like we gave him $7.5M just so that we could pretend he's a quality backup. Well, he must be since we're paying him like one.

Well if we are being realistic doesn't what you just lined out already tell us where we are at? If the rookie UDFA kicker was the savior more often than not and we had a bottom 5 offense despite us having a #1 pick behind center who was billed predraft as a mini Payton Manning is that just going to magically change trajectory overnight with a tougher schedule added in? If we are going to repeat as division champions then it will be with the defense doing the heavy lifting. So keep adding to it.

Everyone keeps arguing all these teams have great TE's that made them successful. THATS BS! What makes those teams great is QB play and we don't have that. So again even getting a NON-INLINE TE who can run a fast 40 time isnt going to get us anywhere without competent QB play consistently. Which we don't have by a long shot. So honestly all these great teams have a TE argument doesnt hold water to me. Mahomes would be nasty without Kelce, Lamar would blow you away without Andrews, does it help? of course any weapon will help but only if you have someone making those correct reads week to week. When we have that then I'd be all in on a game breaking TE but unfortunately we are stuck with one of the most inconsistent starting QB's currently in the NFL. Not to mention all the TE's mentioned are COMPLETE TE's not just a receiving threat with drop issues which Sadiq does. Argue all you want but nothing will change that fact other than getting a consistent QB week to week in a Panthers uniform which doesnt seem to be happing anytime soon.

They don't have guidelines for hand size for the backup QB.

It wasn't sarcasm at all, the Panthers scouting requirements for TE's are similar to the ones they use for OL as far as height and arm length are concerned. 100% true. It's why I've been surprised that they've kept Tremble since the new staff got into place. They'll take a chance on guys later in the draft with shorter arms but if it's going to be a big contract or a high draft pick, expect them to follow the guidelines that the beat reporters have been mentioning because of fan interest in Sediq.

I think the moves they've made this offseason is to allow someone like Sadiq to be considered at 19. That's not to say he's #1 on their board, but I absolutely think he's in the conversation. It's a gamble to go TE in R1, but Sadiq is an intriguing prospect. I've seen McBride and Davis comps, which is some pretty good company. Sadiq had a 43+" VJ and 11'+ BJ w/ a sub-4.4 40 time. What I do appreciate w/ Sadiq is he's not just a receiving threat. He loves to block and is very physical in that arena. To have a quick, explosive TE w/ dependable hands that's not afraid to block is nice. His YAC and redzone efficiency is solid too. I get the logic if we do go this route, but other prospects would have to be off the board for me to want him.

Production is production. That should trump one substandard physical metric. Plenty of players do well with so-called substandard measurements/tests in a certain area. I remember when we passed on Slater because his arms were to short. All he did was dominate future NFL Ends in college, but the staff couldn't overlook those stubs for arms.

I assume this is sarcasm, but it's too subtle to be certain

Goerdert's arms are too short for the current staff. It's why they aren't looking at sediq either.

With his new foot injury, I don’t think Banks goes in the top 50-70….

He fell in the draft and we were there to catch him. He was charmin soft on the field. I wanna say teammates called him Wally pipp because he went down with injury and Ismail took over That was truly a wild time in charlotte. Bobby phis, rae, derreck coleman, George shinn. Kerry collins. I know I am missing some stories but it seemed like every day something was happening

We re-signed James Mitchell. Yay.