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Feels like this part is worth mentioning too: We had guys here who could play and decided to go in a different direction (twice). Who is in charge of evaluating QBs in this organization? Tepper? Because the revolving door of coaches and GMs keep changing while the problems stay the same.

The side by side of Canales before and after coaching the Panthers is gonna look like Obama 09 vs 17

Rap it up, I just witness the best analogy in huddle history!

Teams likely going to draft at QB Saints, Raiders, Panthers, Jets, Browns Teams thinking about drafting a QB Steelers, Rams (time to groom someone behind Stafford), Dolphins (Tua seems to have run his course), Titans (If Cam Ward goes 0-17 and gets Rosen'd and they completely clean house which is possible), Cardinals (maybe one more year from giving up on Kyler), Eagles (I think they take one in the top 3 rounds because Hurts doesn't appear to be making progress as a passer) That's an awful lot of teams and so far the draft class isn't that solid so that's scary. I think for sure 4 1st round QB's get picked, and probably 5, and Allar could be the 6th at the end of the 1st. So yeah, Sellers is getting picked. I just hope we end up with Dante Moore, Mateer, or Nussmeier, and not Sellers, Mendoza, or Allar. In reality 4 out of the 6 will bust, and I don't think we are skilled/lucky enough to pick the franchise QB.

Dowdle and Etienne are fine. Won't make a difference much regardless unless the pass offense stops being cheeks.

I am undecided on Canales. My thoughts were okay he is a qb guy and the deal is, (Tepper perspective) if I hire this QB guy to fix Bryce and he can’t then I will accept that he he can’t be fixed. And I will have a QB guy in place to get a real one. I was good with that. I have a hard time stopping after chapter one. I need to see chapter two if possible Further, the saying ‘fraud vitiates everything’ applies to this. Bryce is a basically a fraud. That is how my brain works: strange or not I see this as only the first part of the test and I knew Bryce could not be fixed. He isn’t broken in the first place. He is exactly what they drafted. He didn’t get ruined this is who he has always been and you cannot ‘fix’ him to be Drew Brees like everybody claimed he was. Said it before, it’s like handing a chef dog food and expecting a great steak. And then blame the chef. I just want it to play out. Hell I was a Wilks Darnold keep the 9th pick guy anyway. I am not married to Dave I just want to see us stay the course and judge at the end of the test. If he fails then, he fails do what you want. I can’t get upset at people disagreeing the way I get upset over the ridiculous Bryce love and stanning and their name calling over it. I am out of explanation that’s about it. I may just link this for future arguments PS Bryce, he is below replacement level you can get what he gives us really cheap.

It's something Nate just created, so I am sure he will tweak it over time but.....replacement level does seem very accurate.

this all sets up as the textbook game where Miami embarrass a bad team. That's what they do w/ McDaniel.

Uh.... wrong. Jerry Richardson never threatened to move. The fact is that the then Mayor of LA was courting the NFL to return prior to the Chargers coming up from San Diego and the Rams in St Louis

Rico went to Asheville HS. He is a good back who can also catch out of the backfield. Don't be suprised if he does well.

Panthers second leading receiver btw

Rico step up. Etienne hasn't looked bad.

Like Mirror Images....wait a sec...if one team wins, who ends up with the broken mirror and 7 years of bad luck Jay-Z program building?

Not enough to actually matter.

Like this guy is arguing in favor of Canales sticking around and picking a defensive coordinator by comparing him to a better coach who probably should not have been allowed to pick his offensive coordinator.

The "boy wonder" isn't qualified to be a starting QB in the NFL on any team.

My theory is that his passion is really doing the social media thing and not being an NFL player. Which, that's perfectly fine but you wouldn't be a social media draw if it weren't for the association with football.

Canales came out and said that shortly after drafting him iirc we don’t. Two people can suck. But man fuging legette doesn’t even know how to play football and doesn’t seem to want to learn.

Damn two people think we can win a game. Look out world. As I type that I realize what that does to the chances of 1st pick again. And understand because we are the black cat Panthers, we are destined to win it.

Well you don’t , uhh we don’t know the ins and outs of that trade up and why he was the guy they chose. Canales may not have been driving that. But how do we overlook the QB as far as standing out for sucking?

Biggest standout loser is the guy he traded up for last season. Being head coach isn’t justification to have more authority when he’s struggled at everything else he’s attempted.

I think Ron is done. He is a grandfather figure now. Consultant for Luke. Better version of Dom/Evero.