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I brought it up elsewhere, but even the year we took SGA, which was the player I wanted that year (fwiw, I hated the Bridges pick), we took SGA then traded him for Bridges, who was taken a pick after ours. Like why tf should anyone do that? If we wanted Bridges, we could’ve just taken him without pick. And all we netted was a 2nd round pick and a solid role player who beats women in his spare time. But outside of player for player, all we gained was a 2nd rounder. And don’t feel like going back to look, but look how many picks we traded over the years for nothing or cash considerations. Remember when we drafted Duren and then traded him for literally fuging nothing? These trades are too many to count.

Just stop drafting so many Duke players, this poo is getting old.

Sad when the WWE is less scripted than the NBA.

That Sion James pick was DUMB

So far jokes aside I like the draft for us. I can understand being apprehensive but the hand wringing considering how comically bad our locker room has been just doesn't line up. Would you rather be drafting more guys like James Bouknight?

They fugged that

Starting at Center for your Charlottes Hornets…

Missed their chance. Could hace easily drafted 2 white centers back to back and had an all white draft

Was hoping to double down with the 2 centers bur kalkbrenner was the guy I wanted more so Im good with it.

Charlotte…got anymore white dudes to draft lol

White Boy City

Enough with the dookies damn lol…shades of Felton/May

Another Duke player!?? Geez!! See if Coach K wants a job too!! Lol

As someone who would have honestly preferred Bailey I think he is getting overhyped by people who are I'm just being honest here-acting like complete Stans. I've seen people acting like they're this kids momma going hard for him on social media. He made the choice to opt for the predraft path that he took and that hurt his stock. Regardless Kon and Ace will be connected for a bit but I can't fault the Hornets for not electing to add another possible malcontent to the locker room. This culture has to change. Whether this actually works is the question. But I'm glad we are trying. We'll see.

As unathletic as he is compared to other NBA players, Luka is still a superior athlete to Knueppel and has way better length for his size and still struggles defensively. We’ve also seen fat James Harden put up video game numbers offensively but couldn’t play defense. I’m sure Knueppel will at least try harder on D than those 2, so there is that at least.

As one of the biggest Miller over Scoot stans at that time, this is clearly different because everything is all about me and what I want. But in all seriousness, I think most of the argument against Miller at that time was about off the court stuff but on the court he was clearly the better player. So if I had to compare, I would say this feels more like if we had drafted not Scoot instead of Miller, but a player ranked more around 6th on big boards instead of either. Bailey was pretty much universally a top 3 player in this draft and Knueppel was not.

Hoping for Raynaud at 33!

lol well that kinda ended up working out in the end, even though I still don't have my jersey yet. Was supposed to ship by tomorrow this time, but just got another email saying it was delayed another 3 weeks and because it's been delayed so long, I had to tell them to keep the order or cancel it, but gave me a 25% off my next order as an apology. Well, my original fear came true and they are now selling the FUSE version (but still not the Blue unfortunately) before the one I ordered was ever shipped. But that's awesome, because I was able to use that coupon to order the FUSE instead and then cancelled the original order. So I got the jersey I wanted for only $6.30 more than the crappier version costs, and it also says it will be shipped immediately and get here early next week, or 2 weeks before the other was now supposed to be shipped out.

I've watched this and think we are well underway. Believe it or not, Bryce is a big part of this. The way he bounced back with such grace. And we've got a lot of young players who want to make their mark, Dave is giving them an opportunity. I loved our draft. I like the number of guys we brought in, and they will help build the culture we want under Dave. We're getting closer, and I think we'll see more wins this year than most of the board. The right culture breeds winning, and winning builds the right culture. Imho, it's coming.

As others have said it's both. One creates the other. But it also takes time sometimes years. And there have been teams lately with new car smell coaching staffs that looked like they were putting it together quickly but things came crashing back down to Earth. Sustainability is the key. For that to happen the meddling of our owners has to stop and they cannot be tempted to return to their ways over any bump in the road either.

It's both. Has to come from top down - but you need those players who are locker room leaders to "buy in" so the culture can self sustain

Facts people need to slow down and let’s see how this plays out. Because we don’t know how they are going to be when the season starts.Luka is not the most athletic but knows how to pick his spots and get his shot off.

Agree on Canales I think he can be a very very good head coach. Still not sold on gm Dan

This thread is very reminiscent of Scoot Henderson vs Brandon Miller.