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Not gonna happen. Would incur an almost $100 mil dead cap hit. They are stuck with him for at least two more seasons, most likely.

That's a bonus for them though tbh. They threw a second on the chance they might be able to fix him. Hack had all the physical tools, and did look okay his freshman year. but then they got a look at him in person and were like "oh my god no" and just kinda forgot he was on the team and quietly cut him lmao

Bumping this back up just to say for the first time I watched the team produced review with Kristen Balboni hosting TD and Stew. whixh always love to see them but don’t watch it I enjoyed it which surprised me. TD in particular got on the offense. Players and coaches. I didn’t expect that but did respect it.

Brother, there have been numerous times in even recent NFL history that QB changes have improved the morale of an NFL team. No one is more painfully aware of how much they can help or harm a team than a player on that team. Doesn't mean they have to not support them or hate them. They have the same discussioms behind closed doors and between each other as we do. They know better than anyone else. You are not gonna see any more of a morale drop from rotating other QB's in there than you would if we keep losing with Bryce at the helm. It's the losing and lack of success that kills morale more than anything else.

To be fair to the Panthers, Bryce was seen as the best QB in the draft by a lot of folks, not fans but commentators and many scouts etc... Alabama really fooled people, and OSU also was considered fools gold.

Clausen was another guy that just played with superior talent his entire life so it didn't matter how good he was. He didn't have a good arm but he also just sucked on the mental aspect. I still remember writing an angry email to some Panthers email in 2010 about how awful the team was. Jerry fuging Richardson called me lol (along with a few others that had done the same). He blamed it all on Fox hahaah

https://sports.yahoo.com/video/jaguars-move-trevor-lawrence-season-180557659.html Surprising they are souring on him one year after signing a massive extension, but is it even true? Either way Lawrence an upgrade over Bryce even with his issues. The Panthers roster is probably about the same as Jacksonville right now so it might not make a difference here. At least Lawrence can throw the ball past 20 yards.

Lewis performed so poorly he lost his starting job in the preseason after being named starter AND after being traded for a 3rd and 4th round pick. I have never seen anything like that preseason in 2001. It was insane.

I would never have traded up like that in the first place. But once that was done Stroud was the clear choice. If I were going to gamble like that, he was the horse. I am not fond of gambling like that and would have missed him in the first place. Just pointing out the obvious. I have never even watched Dart play and I hear the downsides. I am not pumping him per se. Point is he was close to an XL level investment and that is a massive difference in risk. That is where I want to live as opposed to trying to move into the top two picks type of approach. I know if we do this right we can upgrade without breaking everything else.

I will take a look at it tomorrow and see if I can find the worst 3-4 QB's. I think probably only 1st-3rd round is reasonable. It was obvious in college he had a noodle arm.

Believe me I was full in on Mayfield being garbage back then. Darnold I thought made too many mistakes but the arm talent was always there. He finally put it all together and of course it wasn’t on the Panthers

It is a big time indictment on ownership. Along with the other indictments. But Bryce was the major offense.

I'm actually happy. Happy that BY has let no doubt in people's minds that he sucks. I really thought he was going to string people along with ok play and get people on his side. Thank God that has not happened and he SHOULD NOT be part of this team next year

How many Bills players are out saying some of the players were too comfortable etc though? That's what I mean. The Bills are consistently saying the Fins wanted it more, were tougher, etc. it's very different to have multiple players say the things they are saying. Edit: I don't think this is the end of the world or something though and we have to see how the team responds moving forward.

That game was like the Panthers versus the Panthers and everyone watching lost. Awful game.

Totally different when you're talking about an RB decision, especially when one was already on the team and was a 1,000 yard rusher himself last year. And I guarantee you are wrong, professional athletes look at their teammates like brothers and are willing to go to the mat for them when they believe in them, even more so when you're talking about a QB. Those same eyes would see them still losing with the guy they just picked up off the street and don't know at all vs the guy they've been in the thick of it with for the last few seasons and look at as a family member. They would understand moving on from him in the offseason, but benching him for a guy you sign off the street more than halfway through the season is entirely different.

And sluggish I thought I didn’t see much of him. It was kind of…. Next. it is funny,, almost every time I say that I want the assets, all the tools, I am told about the guys with the tools that don’t have all the goods to go with them. You still have to have the tools. Of course there is more to it.

Yea but guys like Lewis and Fasani don’t have enough starts to really count. We went into the season with Clausen penciled in as the dude at QB. All the other “worst ever” guys were 3rd stringers thrown into action for 1 or 2 games.

Try this one for size: Elite Good Meh Shitty Ass . . . Bryce

The Jets as well I think top us. 1st round pick Mark Sanchez (though he had some early success, somehow has like 4 road playoff wins) Zack “milfhunter” Wilson at #2 overall Christian Hackenburg in the 2nd, actually worse than Clausen because he never even got to play in a game (and wasn’t injured) and was gone after 2 years. Other notables include Kellen Clemens, Brooks Bollinger, Erik Ainge, James Morgan, Bryce Petty, Greg McElroy, and Clemson legend Tahj Boyd. That’s pretty rotten too

I’ve always used Elite Good Meh Shitty Ass

Imagine the dread if you could see this comment in 2022.

Which is weird because lefties usually have rockets

The way this team has handled starting QBs since Tepper took over is ass backward. The only QB completion they had was a farce between Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield. What a blessing that QB room looks like right now.

Wonder if that’s because he knows Rhule and Reich were super unlikable