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Too many people on here would rather be right than the Panthers win.

How many passes have you seen that were not completed due to a lack of arm strength? I mean I get he doesn't have the strongest arm in the league, but this narrative that he can't throw the ball 50 yards is ridiculous. Now can he throw it 40 yards on a rope with a defender at his feet? I seriously doubt it. But those QBs are a rarity. Not the norm.

Folks around here treat Bryce Young like he is their child on a travel ball team. And he got the loud parents and is the kid that everyone else knows really doesn’t belong. no one is “sick” because it’s pointed out, it’s a red flag that 3 years and in our low ceiling QB is still being with a 2nd round rookie on a bad team. this is the freaking NFL. No one is clutching their pearls as XL is poo on every day. Or Evero. Or Tepper. Or any other player. And Bryce hasn’t been much better at his job in Carolina as they have been at theirs

I don't buy that - not saying he can throw it on a rope, but he can get enough air under it for a Hail Mary. Bryce will never be like Cam who used to throw lasers, he requires throwing more with anticipation.

While the interception certainly sealed the win, I struggle giving the defense much credit. Either Baker or the WR made a huge mistake and Ransom capitalized. Certainly give credit to Ransom for capitalizing, but I don’t even think our defense forced the error. Evero called a defense that allowed them to March downfield into FG range with ease. Evero’s playcalling essentially guaranteed overtime at best barring a massive unforced error by the Bucs (which fortunately did happen). Conversely, Bryce Young dropped an absolute dime to Coker for the go ahead field goal the prior possession. I personally give way more credit to the offense.

He can’t. Just because he’s playing better doesn’t mean his arm magically got stronger. You’ll never see a Hail Mary from past the 50 because it wouldn’t make it to the end zone. It is possible to be objective.

I guarantee Horn would have more receptions, receiving yards, YAC, rushing yards and game impact if he had XL's reps and opportunities. He's just a better player at the position. Not a better athlete or prospect, but a better player. I could see him being a Josh Downs type of player. XL is a Mingo type of player.

Pretty sure they were in the same draft class.

Yeah... and there'll be another one once Jimmy Horn starts taking XL's reps.

How does a discussion about Shough being rookie of the year vs TMac turn into a put down of Bryce Young? Yall really sick.

Best draft class we've had in more than a decade.

I think Rod will be around a while longer, though these last three games hurt his stock. It appears that for these games with nice leads the opponent scores and then the Canes overreact and don’t stick with their game. I think it’s a confidence issue. With Bussi in net they were spoiled by him making great plays and when he let a goal in when the other team made a push, or anytime Freddie is in net and the opponent scores they fall apart and instead of offense the Canes get defensive, overreact and make mistakes. Is there a sports psychologist in the house? Medic!!!

Both things can be true - Bryce has been clutch for the most part - making throws when they're needed. But this last game was won by the defense at the end. I love that Bryce has kept the perspective and never fell for the hype or the hate.

The difference being we've won 8 games this season - so it's not rookies contributing on a bad team, it's rookies contributing on a winning team.

There was a time….when kickers used to get the love/shine in those moments. Jon Kasay not Jake was deemed the clutch game winner the Cardiac Cats season. At one point, Adam Vinatieri was the clutch game winner while Brady was still on his path to being a GOAT. But everything is QB centric. Trevor Lawerence could move the ball zero yards and Little makes 2 70 yard kicks to close out the season….and Trevor might be talked about for an award

If you watch Princely when he's in, he has an ability to bend round the corner that Scourton severely lacks. I think he'll be a good one for us, eventually.

Baker Mayfield was literally running away from our entire Front 7 on Sunday. Baker. Mayfield.

After getting burned on Brooks can you blame them?

I think he's a 4-3 WLB. Undersized, athletic as hell and often the 'other' player on the play. He's very good in coverage, but his instincts in the run game suck.

Should be giving the K a hell of a lot of credit.

I agree here . I would give Horn more opportunities and limit Legette's routes and number of plays on the field . I would give him one more year to get it together . Give him a few screens and let him run in the open field . We invested too much in him to cut him this soon .

But when people say, Bryce Young doesn’t go downfield…..this is what they are referring to. He goes downfield less than every starter in the NFL…..minus 1. And high odds he likely made a move out of last place the last 3 weeks

Probably sign a mid tier vet. I’ve seen some mention Pierce or Wandale. Roll with TMac, Coker, vet, Horn, and see if XL can work his way back up the depth chart. Brycen would be a good one to keep if he is super cheap. XL was always a raw prospect so he needs time but he also needs to fit our timeline.

Something needs to be noted. How many more seasons of just playoffs before they move from Rod. We know it’s cup or bust. We also know this team is isn’t the finished product that we will see come playoff time due to injuries and trades. The question is, how long before enough is enough with Rod?

I’ve never spoken on GWD stat until today. My stance has remained shrouded in calculated mystery