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Fair for sure. Though I'm pretty sure I would make it all worse We could also have a team that no one wants to play for, with no hope of ever getting better. I don't think we're in 2000-2010 Browns/Lions territory yet. Now we are the worst team for the 2020s. We're half way through this decade. Will the Panthers turn it around? Maybe. Will they continue to suck because Tepper is poison to winning? Maybe? Back to Moton, he's been a very good and consistent RT for a LONG time. Yes, he's had a few injuries, but I don't think that the Panthers wanted to leave a bunch of uncertainty at the position. Regardless our opinion on the FO staff, they see Moton daily. They have a MUCH better picture of his knees and how much longer he can play at a high level than we can from where we are.
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Nah, because if they weren't planning on keeping Horn, he likely wouldn't have played at all, hoping they could then sneak him through to the PS
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Panthers possibly trading Thielen?
PleaseCutStewart replied to philit99's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't think Horn gets much playing time at all unless injuries happen. I think Coker gets first crack at slot WR with Tet and XL starting out wide. -
He's definitely not top 10 for sure. I think he lacks the most in his pass protection game. I would think he would excel more on the right side, where he could lean more into being a road grader run blocker. But yes you could possibly let Moton walk... he stays an all-star RT for 3 more years... Icky never takes the next step and can't play RT and now we need two OTs.
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I think that means he's a lock to make the team but they know he'll be 5th or worse on the depth chart, so they wanted to get him as many snaps as possible before he ends up getting minimal snaps in the regular season.
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Yeah, I honestly don't see Horn making the roster unless moving AT frees up a spot for him.
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He's 6th in APY and first in GPY.
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Who's to say he wouldn't love it? He's from Minnesota. His wife is from Minnesota. He his entire college and pro career in Minnesota until he signed here.
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We are going to doing something stupid like trading next years 1st for Hendrickson and then drop 150 million on him.
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I think the place they wrs and Bryce trained at was in Minnesota. If I recall, Adam owns that complex there. He has many ties still in Minnesota outside of the NFL.
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That’s a reasonable argument. I won’t put that level of play out of reach for Icky yet, but he’s certainly far from being considered a top 10 LT at this point in his career. Hopefully he’ll get there. Moton is in the top 5-10 range for RTs. We’ll most likely be paying him like he’s top 10-15 once that contract hits next year. Not bad imo.
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Horn was out on the field as they ran the clock out last night. That tells you about Horn Jr. if they trade AT….its because Coker and Renfrow can do what AT does
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I don’t want a splash move. we are supposed to be a developmentally minded staff with a focus on a slow rebuild, supposedly doing it the right way.
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Damn, there are a lotta pearl clutchers in here. Virtually every player in the NFL that's been in the league more than a minute deals with chronic conditions they manage. This is a fuging contact sport.
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His wife is from that area and loves it up there, it's why they always go back and spend most of the summer in Minneapolis.
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No loyalty whatsoever if this happens.
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Do I think that going forward Icky will be a better RT than Moton? I would honestly take that chance. Its possible Moton is an all star until he's 37, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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AT came back for a check. Now, give him an option of Minny vs here? I bet AT would prefer to leave and I doubt it’s that close. so the math is open and known. Minny wants him, AT will want to go….so it’s just the Panthers getting something of value from them. Which I assume will be a draft pick
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She's also been going around and liking the posts about AT going back to the Vikings.
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Says more about Horn Jr then it does about Renfrow. I actually expect them to split time at slot with Horn taking more time away as the season goes on.
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Well speaking of his wife she just posted 40 minutes ago 'Big News' on her IG. So we'll see if he's traded or if they just renovated the living room lol
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I agree with this on timing unless we make a move soon.
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It’s happening Rickyscoopes breaking the news and apparently Theilen’s wife dropped a hint on Instagram that it’s happening.
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Excited for football in general but I said 4 here. I hope I'm wrong but I don't believe in Bryce and it feels like one more season of waiting until we actually have a chance to be good.
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Do you consider Icky a better OT than Moton? I don’t think anyone does. Our roster is not depleted everywhere but OL. Our WR room has nice young pieces. Our RB room is sufficient for years. Our interior DL is in nice shape and now we have promising young EDGE players. We’re certainly operating like QB is set as well. The only thing I’ll concede is the timing doesn’t make great sense unless there are some moves in the pipeline that require current cap space.
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