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I really don't know how people make excuses for Canales given that we all know how bad Bryce is while having two starting caliber RBs and yet Canales still calls 33 passes and 9 runs. Canales lost us the game by putting the game in the hands of a losing QB.

I hoped he would grow into the roll. Okay, that was a joke I shouldn't have typed. Flog me for it.

Honestly pretty normal for a concussion I've had 8 for sure between high school football, the military and a car accident... and Puked my guts out more than a few times.

We have a LOT of talent on the offensive side of the ball IMO, I could easily see our offense having a Colts like turn around with a semi competent QB

I was hoping he could do it. However, he can't.

He look out of control yesterday. He can play the rest of the season. Unless a miracle happens, we need a taller QB.

The fact that there were people defending him in the game day thread makes my head hurt, on top of being a midget with a pea shooter arm he is the most chicken sh*t qb ive ever seen play.... eating sacks and throw aways on fourth down sum up his career.

Don't worry, it looks even worse in hindsight.

It's literally the reason he got the job or he wouldn't be Tepper's GM. Morgan is hit and miss. Look at XL and Tet. Look at his free agent oline guys from 2023 and then 2024 (he was the pro personnel guy in 23). The fact is he was happy when Young was drafted and then took the job to prop up Young while knowing all the behind the curtain details. He also has made sure there is no one that can challenge Young on the roster either. Sorry but Dan is all in on the Young disaster. Unfortunately that's a huge negative for me in evaluating Dan.

Which fuging game is he coming in and winning? Unless you happen to be playing Atlanta that week you're screwed if your running game isn't popping off for 200 yards a game.

I was livid when the Panthers traded to #1 overall. I was distraught when they picked Young.

Maybe. With injuries and poor decisions I wouldn't be surprised if he played again. He has a lot of starting experience. Like in SF behind Purdy who would go down again. Or in Miami and that crew who bet big on Tua and still seem committed to that train wreck the owner wanted.

We've done right by Bryce. Two offensive minded coaches. Big investments in the offensive roster at the expense of the defense. It's tike to admit the obvious and swallow the bitter pill that massive trade up to draft Bryce was a bust. It sucks but it beats continuing to pretend that Bryce is an NFL QB.

The problem with replacing Bryce Young is we have to have a QB to replace him with. Dalton isn’t that guy. We have no other young QB on the roster we have been grooming to be a possibility. so the only options we have are free agency, draft or trade. So we are stuck with Bryce until the end of the year. Problem is we still aren’t guaranteed to find a replacement. The draft is a crapshoot and I don’t see any free agent QBs that look to be much of an upgrade. we could trade for someone’s back up but I don’t think a lot of teams would want to give up their back up. Then there’s the cost, would you want to give up a 2nd-3rd round pick for a back up QB? Honestly I see us getting some other teams scraps and trying to make something out of it. Yes it’s worked before, for example Jake Delhomme, then we seen currently with Baker and Darnold. Geno Smith is a player I think could be an option. He will have one year left on his contract after this season which should be easy to get out of or for raiders to release him. Hes worked with Canales and knows his offense. Hes an upgrade over Dalton for sure and Bryce but he’s also capable of a lot of turnovers. The raiders offensive line is horrible right now so I feel like he isn’t nearly as bad as his stats show. At the end of the day he’s just a band aid to a bigger problem we need to fix.

Hopefully they will back off after kicking us to the curb. 50 points is enough to do the trick. Leave them some dignity.

There was a tackle early he was a part of that he looked hurt and got up slowly i thought they were gonna check him

I mean you look at the guy Tepper wanted, Ben Johnson, and it's clear he's probably a better HC. That said, he's not working with a cardboard cut out at QB. The Bears are more talented than we are (a large part of that is thanks to Fitterer). It's going to take time. I'm happy to take my lumps with Canales while we rebuild a roster and regain some goddamn pride. He's not a bad HC.

Wherever he goes, if he goes, we’ll see him in preseason and that will be it.

Oh he absolutely checked out at that point. I don't know what the agreement was either - I assume he thought nobody would be moronic enough to draft Young #1 overall.

Exactly. Footwork, footwork, footwork, footwork. Stop throwing from your tip toes, Bryce, and you'll notice a world of difference with the velocity of your throws.

Honestly, we should probably shelf him. More time gone for him, and now they're beyond football extending types. Makes me even more nervous for him injury wise than we've already had to be.

I have been really easy on Canales. Refused to criticize anything in his first year. Knowing he wasn’t ready. Been very soft on him this year, knowing he still isn’t ready. Knowing how huge the job he is trying to do is even for an experienced guy. A lot to learn all at once. Play caller, one year as OC and here he is in the fire… and then on top of everything else he is saddled with Young. But he has done some very counter productive stuff. At this point he is only staying because I highly value continuity. We have some young players who are coming along and some things about the team are coming along. I am not really a pro Canales guy so much as a pragmatist at this point. Could go either way and would not care if he is gone as long as Bryce is gone too.

Never wanted, just knew when the trade happen there was no way they traded that for a lil guy with bad foot work and weaker arm. Really think they could have stayed at 9 and got him. Was just hoping I was wrong but 3yrs later all hope is gone. Even on the pick in the end zone(MNF) I think he was doing a jumping pass but to his credit his drop back has improved from the slow walk back from his rookie yr so there is that.

There's no way a guy with an eye for talent like Morgan's - picking up multiple contributors as UDFAs - that has completely revamped the rest of the roster looks at Young and thinks "Yeah that's what a QB looks like". He's paying lip service to Young, as is Canales, as that was the agreement they had with Tepper when they both took their respective jobs. They've both taken a quantum leap in their careers because they were one of the few willing to work with Tepper.

I think Stroud has missed like 4 games with his. Head injuries are always scary. We aren't beating the Rams anyway so just sit him and give him through the bye to see how he is doing.