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I’d love to see it. But I don’t think we have much of a chance.

I know just wishful thinking. I don’t think Tepper will put grass in unless it’s part of the CBA. Or builds a site specifically for Charlotte FC that is also better suited and modernized for concerts.

If Chuba can go I think we are better off playing wildcat and running him and Rico 30 times each

I can bring the grass to BOA if you know what I'm talm bout

I had a good time drinking a beer and reading all this. Thanks to all.

don't worry, the tards on panthers twitter think this was the super bowl

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Yea, I've never had high expectations since we drafted Bryce, so it's not like I'm just upset about not meeting them. I went into the season wanting to see player improvement and Canales' play design/calling improvement. I'm now to the point where I 99% only care about seeing individual player improvement. The 1% is that I unfortunately have to still hope to see Canales play calling improvement, because that is kinda critical for the improvement of all our young offensive players. Offense is different from defense, you need good play designs and calls to show out. On defense, everything can be a mess, but a great young player can still stand out and look great. Our defense can be a mess but still have Horn locking down his guys on the outside, Scourton or Princely winning their pass rushing and pressuring the QB, DB swallowing up multiple blockers. But it's very hard for any QB, RB, WR, or TE to individually shine when the play design and calling is poo.

He actually said the Panthers are hanging on like a cat on a screen door lol

Oh, I'm not 100% expecting/demanding anything for next season. All that I want to see out of this season is progress, but I also understand that progress is not linear. I also understand that we've got a young team and coaching staff that are both developing. Expecting a winning record isn't reasonable at all, but I'll cheer for one all the same. I think that this is where some of the more angsty fans keep themselves in a perpetual cycle of misery: high expectations leads to low resiliency. Folks can have high standards, and the Panthers + Bryce have not met those standards, but some of those standards are completely realistic (like Bryce has to be built like Cam in order to be successful).

Who is yall? The Bryce “haters”. This is a wild post bro. Bryce defenders jumping the shark at this point. I wanted Cam Newton before anyone was even floating he could be the #1 overall pick lol. Cam Newton is my Panthers GOAT. As a real Cam fan, it’s gross BY defenders are trying to use Cam as some sort of Bryce defense tactic. Comparing BY to Cam is also on par with comparing Jimmy Clausen to Cam. It’s pretty dang close.

I agree about Evero deserving credit, but that's also unfortunately where I have to say something that I'm sure won't go over well either. As that's great and all, but honestly, at this point, do we REALLY care about Evero showing improvement in his schemes as a coach other than making our players better individually? If you're in the same boat as me, and 100% expecting a new HC next year, what our DC does this year with in game improvements is nice in the moment, but pointless in the long term since he'll then also be gone next year, no way a DC gets kept around for 3 HC's no matter what he did that previous year. So yes, I give him credit and want us to show improvement there, but it's just unfortunately not something I'm going to get excited about either when looking forward into 2026 and beyond, which as I've clearly said, is really all I'm looking at this year, how it sets up our future as a franchise. Now I'll also be fair there and say if you think Canales and co. will be back next year, then sure, it's something to get excited about, but I just can't see any way Tepper brings him back again.

PFF has it's uses for certain position groups but it shouldn't be seen as gospel. Sometimes you just have to look at what you're seeing with your own two eyes.

Also, this post is EXACTLY what I wanted to move on from Bryce this offseason and sign Jameis. Because he'd be slinging the ball all over the field and it would expedite the growth of all our young pass catchers, which to me, regardless of our record, would have made for a "winning" season. We all want our long term franchise QB, but if you can't get that, expediting the improvement of the rest of your roster is a solid consolation prize given the state of our franchise.

You are correct that context matters. Let's look at the timing of those six (I accidentally counted one of Etienne's previously) runs of 10+ 11-yd run | Q2 10:43 (0 - 17) 14-yd run | Q2 9:49 (0 - 17) 25-yd run | Q2 1:47 (7 - 17) 53-yd run | Q3 14:53 (13 - 17) 43-yd run | Q4 9:09 (20 - 17) 16-yd run | Q4 4:31 (27 - 24) Q1 the offense basically walked onto the field and then immediately off thanks to Bryce's turnovers, but that's the only quarter that Dowdle didn't rip off a 10+ yard run. I think that's also where folks are basing most of their frustration... because Q1 was straight cheeks. By the half though, it was 10 - 17 with the Panthers set to get the ball to start the half. That's not a situation to get desperate and start flinging it everywhere. Though not exactly related to the topic, I do have to give Evero credit where credit is due. There were halftime adjustments made that resulted in the Dolphins not being able to mindlessly abuse the defense over the middle. That's not even mentioning how they completely stuffed the Miami run game in the second half as well.

It’s in a quoted reply I think I got confused. Looking at it now I think I took it out of context and apologize. I stand corrrected.

Very fair, but also something I have a "I don't give a poo" attitude about, because I'm so over Bryce and as I've said, this year for me isn't about wins and losses, but improving as a team, which includes individual players getting better. T-Mac, XL, Coker, Horn Jr, Sanders, and Evans aren't going to get better as pass catchers if they're just out there blocking all the time because we're too afraid of Bryce sucking and costing us games. If we lose games because Bryce sucks and throws INT's (or fumbles without being touched lol), but all of our pass catching options got a couple extra targets to help expedite their improvement, it's a trade off I'd take 100 times out of 100. As THAT would then help our future as a franchise, as when we get a real life NFL level QB in here next year, he's getting to throw to players who spent this year growing as players, not having wasted a year of improvement because we're too afraid to let the noodle arm throw the ball.

If it were possible to have negative swag somehow Bryce Young could achieve that.

Where in that post did I compare Bryce to Brees?

You overlook the risk of putting the ball in Bryce’s hands going by the day to that point while chewing up yard on the ground. He could have lost it with another fugup. I wouldn’t want to throw unless I had to.

Trigger warning: Bryce Young and David Moore

I don’t think you are looking close forceful gs to like. I mean there were some things that happened in the game. Granted it is hard to assess when is against weak competition. Overall I agree. Wins can hide watts and looking closer at what those were and what needs to be done to eliminate them is gratifying for hardcore analytical perfectionist types.

Yeah, see this is where logic gets thrown out the window. Bryce Young rightfully catching heat isn’t in the same universe as Cam Newton catching whatever he got. It just makes no sense. Bryce Young has been the definition of a bad pick. You can hope all you want. Claiming what he gets is haters being haters is like claiming people were unfair to Dwayne Jarrett lol

I guess I'm the odd man out. I did not care for him at all. Yuck!