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I wouldn't necessarily go that far. I mean, if you can significantly impact the other team's starting field position on kickoffs that should show up in the results in the long term but it's definitely gonna show up in the margins. Putting the ball through the uprights or not is going to be the much louder signal in the data. Neither is gonna matter when you're going out there and just getting straight wood shedded. LOL

Dude. Stop bringing up Wilks like he is the answer. If he were he would be a head coach somewhere right now. Also this team is not that team. Completely different players with different personalities. I agree they need someone who will hold them more accountable. But Tepper will have to settle for whoever will take the job. So here we are.

This schedule to start the season has been pretty light and we still screwed it up

I don't understand how we aren't dead last in the NFL in all offensive categories. I guess the garbage time against Arizona

NFL kicker wins 0 additional games with this 1 neat trick.

Not to mention the fact he made a 57 yard field goal the week before. I swear the whole team just didn't want to work sunday

Every kicker has a brain fart now and then. It happens. Now if it carries over to the next game then things will get serious real quick.

No, not buy our way out. Hire a HC that can whip these players into shape and give them something to play for. Have you forgotten how the team played under Wilkes?

I’m still trying to figure out… bc when we signed him and I read he made a 59 yarder, I thought for sure he had a solid leg. But that attempt against the Pats and that 50-some-yarder in the preseason that barely died over the cross bar, I just don’t know. I’ve never known a kicker to take something off their kicks to compensate for more accuracy on long attempts. I’ve also never heard of kickers who up the arc/trajectory on long kicks. They typically drive the ball with a lower trajectory, which equals more power and velocity. So I’m not understanding how you kick a 59 yarder and then struggle with the distance of 54? unless the wind was really at his back, idk what to make of it?

They drafted incredibly well for two years prior to their jumping off. it starts and ends there. We have to start hitting on rounds 1-4

So the solution is to do what? Buy our way out? If it was that easy every team would be a juggernaut. The culture is established by management and the players. If management is bad they draft bad players and that's your culture. Its is deeply rooted in this organization and has been for a very long time.

Tepper has had a few retired NFL minds help him on the side in a silent-consultant type basis. That has likely given him the assurance he could figure it out but it hasn’t worked. …so now, as some have been mentioning, it’s time to find a true President of Football Operations who is his liaison and he just goes full hands-off. Doesn’t even need to pretend he’s Mr. Charlotte either. Just sit back, throw the cash, get out of the light (which I’d say he’s done to a certain effect) Many have been screaming for this since the first reset before we hired Rhule. If you can find that guy, that’s the starting point. Have them map out the blueprint for finding a GM who dictates the vision, and then those two find their HC. BUT If we don’t hit that full reset, and get a PFO, we need to get lucky and find a generational player or coach that changes everything. There’s nothing any player on our roster can do to transform the team. McMillan, Horn, DB and Chuba are a start, but may be on their way out by the time we correct it. I can give Canales a bit of grace these next 5-6 weeks but then pressure is on if it’s looking bad. Bryce, I’m mostly done with him. A few main Personnel objectives should be: -Accrue high draft capital (figure out how to gain picks to create multiple 1sts and 2nds) -ID a blue chip DE and LB. -Roadmap a QB scenario with both a vet and rookie. I’d take anything at this point, Stidham and Mateer IDFK

Easily the weakest leg in the league

Last refuge of someone who’s wrong on the internet. “Just wait until he leaves and gets better and THEN I’ll be right.” then they just kinda slink away and never bring it up again. and as someone who’s almost never wrong about the panthers, that’s the most frustrating part. Someone who had been demonstrably wrong and irritating for years will simply vanish and rereg a month later and find something else to hang their online persona on. There’s no resolution, there’s no catharsis barely even get satisfaction anymore. Oh well, posting for the love of the game I suppose.

I agree. Until the Pats game he was money. The entire special teams group decided to sit the pat's game out.

Every other team in the league practically has a kicker that's good from 60. This guy barely made it to the endzone on a 55 yarder that was wide right even if it was long enough. Like Cam said, keep the main thing the main thing. Cool, you have a nifty little kickoff trick. That's nice. But putting the ball through the uprights is the main thing.

Dave is going to be forced to do something if this continues, which it will. I'm just wondering how bad it has to get before Young is benched?

Are you serious?

So many of them were registered at the end of 2022. I guarantee Bryce has a brand management company working for him with a bunch of sock puppet twitter accounts spamming ai hype slop. September 2022 (the date I most often see) would have been when he started trying to campaign for another heisman even tho he wasn’t playing nearly as well as he had the year before.

I know his performance wasn't great against the Pats but the man has been an absolute boon for us otherwise. When was the last time we were proactive in figuring out something before the majority of the league did?

Wonder if Flores will get HC consideration or if he's blackballed after his lawsuit... I'd be down to even trade for him as Def. Coord, and there's your HC in waiting if/when we fire Canales next year since I don't think it's this year. Bring in a vet stop gap QB (again), draft a guy in the 2nd/3rd. Draft true BPA and pray we learn how to draft Pray the QB works out, if not, you've helped assemble the team around him for 2027.

Doesn’t matter. When you have a QB who struggles to get the ball to his receivers, we could have Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, and T.O. out there and Bryce still gonna finish with <200 yards and a 55% completion pct.

I’d love to hear a detailed argument as to why Dan Morgan should keep his job Especially if we’re planning to restart again

Just my opinion but we need to get great players not quantity. Sounds simple but we need to take BPA every round for a while. Talent sucks here. Oh and everything is just soft, too nice. We need a leader who can motivate these guys and crack some skulls so to speak. Not sing carols and be everybody’s friend

The team needs a culture change. We need a HC that will come in and smash skulls. A guy that knows how to win and has the creds to demand respect. After that, we need a QB that is the same type of leader. A guy who can put the game on his back and demand the respect and effort of the players around him. None of that is easy, but we can’t draft our way out of a terrible culture.