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I know that Tua and Wilson were knocked out cold last year and that Kyler tore an ACL. Those are the comps for Young... Probably an anomaly though, right?

Give me Nick Hampton at App State - 6'3 240 lbs, 81 inch arms, 4.6 40 OLB. Guy can drop or pass rush and would be an ideal guy to cover space or blitz on 3rd down. Jarrod Clark out of Coastal Carolina who is 6'4 340 lb Nose Tackle. Should be there on Day 3. Zach Kuntz out of ODU. Penn State Transfer TE who is like 6'8 250 lbs and runs like a receiver. Should also be there on Day 3.

With a 5% flat income tax, you'd think we could offer slightly less than teams in New York, Illinois, California, etc. I'm shocked at the number of players who take jobs in California and Washington for the same pay as a state like Florida. Dudes need financial management planners on speed dial during free agency.

We already know that McCown and Reich want Stroud. We know McCown because he basically said as much in his video breakdowns and we know Reich because it's been leaked. If we take Young it's because of Tepper. He's a business guy and Young is a little more of what you'd expect to see in the corporate world than Stroud. It makes sense that Tepper would like that. So again, I hope Tepper stays out of it and let's the experts he pays millions for make the decision. Tepper hired Rhule though so I'm not holding my breath that he knows what he's doing. If you're an owner, you hire people who are industry experts. Operations subject matter experts, and you trust their judgment. Tepper is like the guy who always wanted to own a team as a hobby and now wants to be involved in the day to day, which I get. I'd probably go out to dinner with potential draft picks as well. But I'd let the guys I pay $75 million to make the decisions.

That's the thing, what worked for Bryce in college, even in the SEC, may not translate. Russell Wilson was a great pocket passer at NC State and Wisconsin. He scrambled when he needed to but he wasn't out there running around in circles like Bryce tends to do. Kyler Murray is a baseball player and his speed and throwing motion, along with initial velocity and spin rate, show that. Young is neither of those. I'd say his comp is closer to Doug Flutie but no one wants to admit it. He's a small, good college QB on the most talented roster in college football. Put Stroud down in Alabama with Bill O'Brian and I think Stroud still throws 40 touchdowns and for 4,000 yards. I think Levis would've even put up better numbers than Bryce at Alabama. Look at what he did in 2021 at freaking Kentucky.

Well, considering the synergy we now see between coaching staff and front office, I'd say Rhule trying to control everything was the problem. I'm not sold that Tepper isn't a part of the issue as well but we will see. We know the staff wants Stroud. If we draft Young it's because of Tepper and at that point my feelings on him will be solidified. This staff is a rookie QB's Dream and Stroud has all of the tools to take advantage of it. Young, not so much.

Bu..bu..but Baker is Baker. He has a photograohic memory, a stronger arm than Young, good movement skills, etc. I see Young as slightly better than Baker just because his release is quicker but all of his balls float. He can't Rope anything in beyond 10 yards past the LOS and making those cross field throws, on time, is going to be hard for him. Stroud makes those outs and digs look easy from 40 yards out. His footwork is perfect. He makes the right reads pre-snap. We don't need the most vocal guy. We need a guy who can execute and Reich hasn't had someone who can place the ball like Stroud since Luck. Obviously Luck could run but that ended up being his downfall as well. And for people who sag you need someone who can create. Tom Brady went to 10 Super Bowls. He may be the least athletic guy who ever played in the NFL. Stroud has the same kind of ball placement as Brady, Luck, Burrow, etc. If it's there mentally as well, you take him and don't look back, especially with Caldwell, MCcown, and Reich.

It's all Arm angle and movement. The thing is that there are a ton of other metrics including injuries. Three QB's last year were around Bryce Youngs measurements: Russell Wilson, Tua, and Kyler. Russell and Tua were knocked out cold at least once and Kyler tore his ACL. Obviously that can happen to anyone, including Joe Burrow. However every since Burrow tore his ACL and the Bengals realized that wasn't sustainable, they went and got Jamar Chase and offensive line help. They've been to the AFC Championship game two years in a row. If our QB Coach says that Stroud is a lot like Burrow, not Burrow-lite or Mini-Burrow, you go get him. Bryce Young being called Mahomes-lite is funny because he's lite in every sense of the word: Arm strength, height, pocket presence, Arm angles, platforms, etc. He was a mini-Mahomes in college. If we could take Young in the 2nd or at 9 I'd have said go for it. But at Number 1? Hell no. You go with the guy whose comp is Burrow. He reads defenses, makes checks, pre-snap reads, literally walks the ball 60 yards downfield, and tore up the countries best defense in UGA, straight up shook the best defensive tackle in Jalin Carter and threw a touchdown, etc. It's not even close. Not. Even. Close. Just need Tepper to not screw this up like his soccer team.

If it gets Tepper out of the picture, so be it.

He's better than Stroud? In college, perhaps. In the NFL, highly unlikely. He scrambles around, great. People call him Mahomes-lite but he's Mahomes-literally I'm every way, Arm strength, height, processing speed, etc. Everyone loved Zac Wilson's off platform throws and ability to "create" as well. When it came down to him throwing from the pocket what happened? He can't do it. Give me Stroud, a proven pocket gun slinger who can hit 70 yards down the field as well as 30, all from the pocket. Bryce can't do that. If I'm Tepper, I listen to the experts that I hired to run the team.

Can Tepper not stay out of poo? God damn man.

All-Leg Team My point stands.

That Texas A&M game was a thing of beauty. I grew up in Hudson, going to App games, so I'm right there with you. By the way, Anderson Castle is a future Hall of Famer. If you don't get the joke now, you will.

The original post was some Madden garbage of how "OP would use them" not how "Ejiro will use them". There is a difference that's more than semantics here. When discussing how the staff will use them, usually an OP will provide some insight into coaching and scheme, not their personal preference.

"Oo wee mayne" the Panthers love LSU.

Need to revise the title to "Future All-Pro Kicker" since every kicker we trade or cut goes on to be awesome.

Well, you're not the defensive coordinator or Dom Capers so..no one cares.

Are you an App fan? I've watched his entire career and I tend to agree with that. He played like 6'2 225 so no one questioned his measurable at App. So when he came out at 6'1 210 everyone was confused a bit. Then he ran over and through some dudes when he finally got a carry at the Senior Bowl, instead of Jake Haener pulling every RPO he got, and I was like, 6'2 225 is definitely his playing size. Literally ran around two guys and then straight over the UGA safety and then buried another guy. His games against Miami, UNC, and Texas A&M are games people can watch if they want some familiarity with Peoples. Would love for him to end up with Carolina but preferably with a 7th round pick.

fuging T-Bone man...or whatever the biggest cut I can get, rare. Baked potato, butter only. And whatever Salad looks good.

Camerun Peoples would be a good option late. Power back, could put on 10 lbs jn the NFL and be a real horse.

Darnell Washington in the 2nd, come on down.

Superior to whom? Have you watched Stroud play? Have you seen Josh's breakdown of Stroud's tape? Their mental processing is nearly equal and Stroud is a pinpoint passer. He makes those Pro Day throws in live games, over and over and over. Give me Stroud over Young and even give me Levis over Young. Levis is going to be that guy who drops but ends up being really good. You can mark that down.

It really comes down to a precision passer versus someone who can improvise. I get that Stroud didn't leave the pocket much but he didn't have to. When he did against UGA he ended up throwing two touchdowns. 10 years ago, Young is a 3rd or 4th round pick. I think he's still worth that range, personally. Stroud is just a dude who could drop a needle into a thimble from 40 yards away.

Stroud is the best QB in this class. I think Levis is second. Levis 2022 was horrid because his best receiver was a true freshman, he had a new offensive coordinator, and his line was garbage.

Still prefer Stroud. Not sure how anyone can say Young is the best thrower of the ball after seeing both throw.