DaveThePanther2008

It's hard to tell about Hubbard. The only clips they had of him were when he was in high school. I think he was a shot in the dark.

Darnold 250 2TD 1 INT CMC 200+ Multipurpose yards with 2 TDs We get as many interceptions off of Wilson than he had all last year at BYU (4) and 3 sacks.

I think it would mean more to the player that he coach contacts them than the GM. The GM doesn't deal with the player day to day.

Horn has the highest expectation and with the loss of Samuel I see Marshall having a huge impact as well. Christensen is gravy IMO.

I think with him on the field it will make our offense more dynamic.

I wonder if they gave him a call before the pick and told him they expect a professional with no childish incidence.

He'll be a perfect 3rd down conversion. I saw a clip where he went through the middle like he was blocking and snuck out for a huge gain. We'll have plenty of 3rd down conversion from other players that just about every time we use him. It will work. 20 or 30 catches for the season would be awesome.

Jeff King a former Panther TE has joined the mix. https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/news/panthers-request-permission-to-interview-jeff-king-for-assistant-gm-job

Horn is a day one starter Marshall #3 WR Christensen Starting LT Tremble will see significant playing time as a FB and TE and maybe HB Hubbard will see the field giving CMC a blow Nixon the reigning Big 10 DPOY will at minimum be in the DT rotation. I don't see him starting but will see time at DT. DT is a position were we rotate players all the time. He'll see significant playing time. Taylor is a wild card. He may be a bust or may be a steal. Honestly I don't know enough about him to be confident one way or the other. We'll see after we start workouts what his ceiling in year one will be. Brown impressed Rhule in the Senior Bowl and will most likely start the season as a backup but as every season we'll have a O-line injury and he'll be ready to come in and start. What I will say that may make him a bust is that he cannot keep his weight down. I am sure the teams Nutritionist will be his best friend. Smith will have a chance to start as our PR specialist and get opportunities as the #4 WR. He may not see a lot of time but he'll have a decent stat line. He will also be in a position to move to the #3 spot when we let Anderson walk after 2021. Fletcher and Hoskins along with Taylor are the ones who I am not counting on to do much. How you figure only 3 to 4 really boggles my mind. Each of the players that we drafted are in the position of need and really have a great chance to make the team. I respect your opinion and I am sure you think I am a homer but I honestly believe this was a grand slam draft. In a couple of years will be the draft we point to as the one where we turned the corner to be a perennial winning team.

I don't doubt that our staff got a call from someone. I believe we wanted Christensen and Marshall. The front office decided that the gamble to wait on Christensen and take Marshall was better than waiting to see if Marshall fell to our 3rd round pick. The gamble paid off because we ended up with both. I heard many times before the draft that N.O. was interested in a CB and Horn was in that conversation. Fortunately for us we had a need at CB and WR so while we got the upper hand I don't think we chose those players just to screw N.O. It's more of a coincidence and we got great players plus we kept them from N.O.

I don't see 6 starters but I do see a possibility of 7 or 8 players drafted seeing significant playing time.

Wouldn't that be a steal. Especially since we are in dire need of a FS. My non-draftee favorite going into camp.

Not common but I will admit it happens sometimes.

Old regime vs different Philosophy. If Horn is dominate he'll be a Panther a long time. WTH does Kobe have to do with the NFL? Very few Athletes wear a number from a different sport. Players like MJ and Kobe have no bearing on other sports.

Clearly letting Anderson go and keeping Moore should be the way to go. I also don't think we should underestimate the connection he and Brady already have. Brady already knows his skill set and will be ready to use it day 1.

Spot on. Our staff did a good job addressing most of our needs on offense and defense during this draft. We're building a nice core of young players that can help Darnold succeed. If he fails, which I don't believe he will, we will be in a position to get a franchise QB. Who knows who is the next college star to step into the argument of franchise QB. I think Howell and Rattler are among the favorites but there will certainly be more. Furthermore, if Watson clears his problems we would be in the same position as we were this year to make a trade for him. With 2020 and 2021 draft choices losing a 1st for the next couple of years won't hurt so bad. Had we selected Fields and he has a poor 2021 than we are stuck with having to give him another season to show it was only rookie mistakes. It would be 2023 before we could make a move to get another QB. I think Darnold, based on some of the videos posted earlier, shows he can perform well in this league. Some of his plays he had very little time from his O-line but still made plays. I believe our O-line will be much better than the Jets ever had and Darnold has more toys to play with. Lastly, I wish the the Huddlers that wanted Fields would let it go. All the bitchin in the world isn't going to change the outcome of the draft. If he is great we'll say well we could have had Fields. Every team can say that. In 2012 seven teams passed on Luke Kuechly, In 2017 seven teams passed on CMC. You can go on and on about who we didn't draft but it is water under the bridge. LET IT GO.

I saw where the pundits think he would be a perfect fit in New Orleans. Welcome to the NFC South the home of greatness in their twilight years.

Not when your name is Marty Hurney. Hurney gets his heart set and refuses to look at the truth. Little will not make this team.

And during that year he has a statically decent season for a 2nd year pro. Entire Body? Hurney f'd up the Bridgewater deal. I'll give you that Tepper should have fired him when he let Rivera. Tepper IMO did everything right with the exception of firing Hurney when he fired Rivera. Rhule w/Hurney 2020 draft was probably our best draft in many years. Rhule and Fitterer 2021 draft may in a couple of years be the key draft that brings us a Lombardi. There isn't one organization that does everything right. Not one. Some are better than others but IMO we have a staff that will run with the upper echelon of team management. I guess you prefer the old regime.

Epic Post SCP... I miss your game week rants and your bizarre wit. (Quite funny to tell the truth) You expressed my feelings about Hurney through and through. Great Post.

This has me believing that he will be the steal of the draft. How he slipped with that much Big 10 action is beyond me but We'll take it.

So tell us how you would have handled it. We had a QB that couldn't push the ball down the field but far worse was we had a defense that was horrific starting the season. You remember we were on a pace to set an NFL record for the worst percentage in football on 3rd down. IN NFL HISTORY. Fortunately our defense improved and we missed that amazing honor. You said their stats were similar. That puts Darnold well ahead of Bridgewater since TB had weapons and Darnold had very little. Putting Darnold with this offense will improve his stats greatly. AND HE CAN PUSH THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD. That in itself will make this offense very potent. We traded for a QB that has as much potential to be solid starter as does Fields. We drafted a potential Shutdown corner. This helps us get off the field. We drafted concerns at just about every level with solid players. This draft could bring as many as 3 or 4 starts and 3 or 4 more major contributors and well as a deep bench. Where in anyone's right mind would they believe the Panther staff has no idea what they are doing? How many drafts did we go through where we were wondering if anyone was going to start outside the first round? I posted a couple of months ago Hurney overall record was 55.05% hit on his draft choices. And if you take away his first round it was 48.42% Round Picks Hits 1 14 14 100.00% 2 15 8 53.33% 3 18 10 55.56% 4 15 9 60.00% 5 16 8 50.00% 6 13 6 46.15% 7 18 5 27.78% Total 109 60 55.05% This is where you ask WTF is our front office doing.

The one comment I continued to hear before the draft was. "We have to figure out a way to get off the field" I think the nice additions in Free Agency on our front 7 and the belief they were going to live or die with Darnold at the helm made the decision easy. Find a player that can help you get off the field. JC Horn fits that player.

He's probably over on the WFT forum gussing about how wonderful Hurney and staff did and how incredible weak the Panthers did.

What I like about Nixon is he seems to be a very violent tackler. I cannot wait to see him in the rotation.