*FreeFua*

Just trying to think back Carson had who in Cincy? Chad and TJ Andy had AJ Then Carson had Fitz in AZ Andy hasn’t had much since leaving Cincy. I guess he had Lamb in Dallas but he was a rookie

I was coming into this thread to say Carson Palmer: Dalton: Exact same completion percentage. Both left Cincy around same age.

Yah I agree there was obviously a lot more bad last year but Dalton throwing for 361 really should’ve raised more alarms after it happened. Bryce honestly should’ve sat from that point on last year

I’m also thinking Nussmeier might not declare. I think he has a crazy raise as this season progresses but if he’s not guaranteed top 10 maybe he goes back and solidifies himself as QB 2/3 next year behind Arch. Battles Nico

Oh gee my mistake. Runs like he’s 36 Also doesn’t change my point at all

I think some of these GM’s feel pressured to take the guy the media pushes as a can’t miss prospect Caleb Williams and Bryce both had red flags coming out but the media ignored those and claimed Caleb was a generational talent Imagine passing on one of these guys and the media actually turns out to be right for once. You’re toast. Poles and Fitterer can at least say they took the guy the majority of teams would’ve taken first

The situation last year wasn’t bad 100% of the time though. There are so many plays last year that were similar to this year where Bryce simply didn’t throw the damn ball. Dalton did the same thing in Seattle last year as he did in LV this year. He proved it wasn’t as bad as Bryce made it seem I think both Bryce and Caleb Williams are so used to hanging back there in the pocket for so long that the speed of the NFL game is really going to take some serious time to adjust to. The problem for Bryce though is that he lacks the physical tools whereas Caleb doesn’t. That ball Dalton threw to Thielen isn’t a pass Bryce would ever attempt in a million years and that’s the problem

We aren’t winning the Super Bowl this year This staff keeps pushing the whole developmental thing so having a 36 year old WR out there while our 1st round rookie WR that we traded up for sits on the bench doesn’t do us a ton of favors long term Jeez, 1 win and some of you completely change course. Tepper is the same way

Beck Ward Sanders Nuss Ewers McMillian Burden Hunter Campbell Banks Graham

Agreed Now that Dalton’s playing there really isn’t a reason for Thielen to be out there. Like you said, we really need to see what we have in Mingo (especially) but XL as well

I really didn’t understand what the rush was to pay him This is only year 4 for him. Had this year and next years team option. They could’ve watched this play out a little longer. Based on his first 3 seasons it would’ve been a bet I felt safe taking

August 14th it was damn sure noticeable for me

Andy Dalton is about to turn 37. ”a couple years”? This fan base has suffered through such crappy QB play for so many years that one good Andy Dalton performance has some of you thinking crazy

Lmao wut

Nussmeier is going to be a guy once the draft rolls around. If we don’t go QB it’ll either be one of the top two tackles or we desperately need a true WR1 Mingo has been a ghost. Thielen is old as hell. Diontae FA. A true WR1 can change an entire offense

Drew Lock was with Canales in Seattle. Wouldn’t be surprised if they went after him I wouldn’t even be opposed to Wilson or Lance if Canales wanted them. Just give him someone with a damn NFL arm

Need to sign one of the young FA QB’s this offseason to see what Canales can do with them

Knowing Tepper I’d prefer we get the 1st overall pick because if we’re sitting at 6-10 range he’s going to trade up again for a QB

It’s going to take a Dalton injury for them to be able to ever go back to Bryce now

If Nussmeier keeps doing what he’s doing then he’s going 1st round for sure

We don’t even have to win. If Dalton just does what he did in Seattle last year then the Bryce excuses need to stop

It’s the same national media that was sucking Bryce off the entire pre draft process The national media all just piggyback off each other when it comes time to the draft A lot easier to blame the mess that is the Panthers than to admit how horribly wrong they were about Bryce

I said elsewhere I actually like Sanders the football player. I love the Geno comp for him. I worry about some of the sacks that aren’t on the OL. Very much like I did with Bryce hell, I’d be all for Carolina convincing Sanders to play here. We’re going to need someone who is used to a circus like environment in order to succeed here

Shadeur takes soooooo many sacks. His pressure to sack rate can’t be good. Yeah his OL is bad but like Bryce he doesn’t do himself many favors often

Yep. I’d be trying like hell to trade him today