SmokinwithWilly

I'm not saying Matt Rhule is the entire problem. I'm saying Matt Rhule is a HUGE problem and judging Fitts competence as a GM based on a guy he had no input in choosing and has no choice in firing is not a fair assessment of his abilities. He could be the next Brandon Beane but you wouldn't know because you're focused on blaming him for the incompetence of Tepper and Rhule. He's done his job as GM for Matt Rhule. He's gotten the pieces that fit the head coach's coaching philosophy. Now whether or not Rhule can actually use those pieces correctly is not up to him. You keep saying he's been bad. What has he done, that was solely his choice, that was bad that was worthy of him being fired after 1 season?

He was always a project QB. Thats what 3rd round QBs are. He should have been given some time to develop properly but instead he was 4th on the depth chart during a bullshit QB competition when it always should have been Baker 1, Sam 2, MC 3 and Walker hitting the pavement. But again, you're blaming Fitts for Rhule's incompetence. You don't draft a QB in the 3rd round to stick him behind a CFL qb. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows this except for... you know who.

You're going to judge a guy as success or failure because he gets 3 snaps in practice while a guy who never legitimately had a chance to make any team baring injuries got 50% in preseason. He never stood a chance against Rhule's pet project.

No. I'm saying this team might not suck if it weren't for Rhule. As GM, he's done his job bringing in pieces that fit Matt Rhule's philosophy. It's not his fault Rhules philosophy is poo.

Fitts is getting Rhule the players he wants based on the measurables and abilities he values. That's his job as a GM. Without Tepper in his ear, I fully believe he would have fired Rhule at the end of last year. We could have been in a better position this year. We didn't need a QB competition. It was over the minute Baker was acquired. We were already behind on OTA's but yet Rhule still felt the need to play Walker more than anyone else in preseason. That was stupid. Playing time is more effective than practice or study time. We didn't need a oline competition. We drafted a LT specializing in run blocking, so naturally we've become a pass heavy offense. We brought in a new center and guard, but still keep playing the Elf and have Jordon active on gameday despite him being god awful. Rhule spent a long time trying people all over the place to end up exactly where we all knew we would before camp even started. We kept 7 WRs but only play 2 or 3. What's the point. We have a guy in Higgins who gets crazy separation but he never sees the field. Hurney got Bridgewater, paid him 60 mil then dumped him after 1 season. We overpaid to get Darnold, gave him the 5th year, but that's the guy Rhule wanted. We have Chinn being played out of position after winning 2 DRotM and he should have been DROY. Burns is being dropped back into coverage constantly as our only real pass rusher. We have the worst pass catching offensive piece fielding kickoffs and surprise, surprise, he fumbles. Do you think Fitts drafted Chuba to be a kickoff specialist? Our offense is boring. This is basic offense 101 and it sure as hell looks like it. There's no creativity, no innovation, nothing. We have one of the most explosive RBs in the NFL and we don't use him in the passing game where he's excelled. We traded a 3rd rounder for CJ. Based on his talent set, that's a good trade. Jacksonville was a crapshow and Meyer wanted him gone. Even if he is average, that's worth it for that pick and remainder of his contract. If he turns into more, because of his rd 1 measurables, then we win. Almost our entire coaching staff is from either Baylor or Temple. There's little to no NFL experience here. This team was gutted of players and 2 drafts is not going to fix all of that. There's talent on this team. There are pieces that are good if they get put in a position to succeed. Fitts has gotten Rhule who he wanted. He's doing the job he was hired to do by Tepper, get Rhule his players for a 7 year rebuild. It's not his fault Rhule has no idea what to do with them. Are they all perfect or all working out? Of course not. At the end of the day, you have to have someone who is more than a college coach to succeed in the NFL and we definitely do not have that. This team is boring, bland, with no innovation, no motivation, no swag and a coach who's 3-4 weeks slower on realizing basic NFL concepts than fans from a message board. Saying this is Fitts fault is an overreaction. He's made mistakes. Every NFL GM has. But to say he's responsible for the ongoing stupidity of Rhule isn't fair. This is Tepper's man and only he is going to get to say when he's fired. A real NFL coach is put in charge and this team goes from 3-5 wins to 8-9 this year, and the future is looking brighter.

End of the day, Tepper is choosing the new HC. Our only hope is that whoever our GM is can put some candidates in front of him. Now if we fire Fitts with Rhule, what GM worth anything is going to come here knowing that they aren't even going to get a legitimate chance to actually do anything? You're ready to fire him after 1 season. Who's coming here on such a short leash? We'll end up in the same position we were trying to find a new OC. Do you really want Ben McAdoo of GMs?

I haven't been blown away yet either, but when I ask myself if these guys have been put in a position to succeed, there's Matt Rhule spewing some poo we've all known for months like it's some new revelation. This team desperately needs some Cam/TD/Norman type swagger and it's just not here. Bad leaders drag everyone else down.

You're right there. But if we're looking for a wide eyed, innovative offensive play caller, the first names that pop into my head 10 out of 10 times don't include Ben McAdoo.

True, but I think you have to take that chance. Seattle is a shitshow. If he had stayed, no one is hiring him out of that situation now. If you look at what he's done since he got here, he's gotten pieces. He's acquired pieces according to what his coaches philosophy is. He's done some good things in the draft, but obviously some could have been better. Overall, to judge Fitt that poorly to fire him, you have to look at him and say this team is in a bad situation because of what he's done as a GM and I just don't think you can make that call. The laughing stock that is the Carolina Panthers sits on Matt Rhule's shoulders. I seriously can't think of another coach 3 years in the league who's put his team in a worse position to succeed. It's purely speculation, but I feel Scott wanted him gone at the end of last year. You could see it in his body language at the end of season presser that he wasn't buying what Matt Rhule was selling. I genuinely think Scott and Dan could do a good job and build a good team, we just need Dave and Matt to gtfo of the way.

BofA septic system to be able to handle all the bullshit he spews on a regular basis.

There's only 32 of these jobs in the world. Even if it's not the best situation, you still don't turn down the opportunity because you don't know when you'll get another.

Our QB situation is choosing between discount gas station sushi or mystery meat tacos from a back alley food truck.

I already know all this stuff and would be happy to be HC for only half rhules salary this year

I have 3 garbage pail kids and a 80s mixed tape and she ain't never getting them!!

Can't really answer anything on personnel decisions. Why on earth is our worst pass catching RB returning kicks.

2.2 billion dollars is a lot of money to spend to be petty.

Kind of hard to do mid season though. If we're talking end of season yes, but I don't think he lasts that long if we are 0-8

I used to think Ron was the most stubborn coach ever. I was wrong.

Does anyone else seriously think after what he has done in the NFL there are any college teams saying I have to get me some of that. Rhule has been exposed. He is a fraud. He might get a job at Podunk U, but no real FBS college is thinking Matt is the solution to all their problems.

I never thought I'd see the day I was jealous of the Detroit Lions.

Steve Wilks.

He doesnt want to quit because he will have to give back the money.

Rhule has shown without fail that he CANNOT evalute players and put the best players in position to succeed. We could have a team of all pros and he would find a way to fug it up. The man is a terrible head coach and an even worse talent evaluator.

We have a HC that couldn’t put together a preschool puzzle about football. Part of being a good head coach is elevating those around you. Rhule has taken these players and dragged them down to his level of buffoonary.