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I was hopeful we could win despite of Rhule this season with some of the new coaches. But I underestimated his negative impact once again.

It feels like some weird dynamic between Tepper and Rhule holding the firing of Rhule up. Maybe money, maybe ego. Tepper didn’t hesitate to make quick decisions for the new training facility, Charlotte FC coaching (which actually looks like the correct move) etc. Something’s up here. I didn’t buy that he’s ok with this. He really hates loosing at anything.

He looked pretty good outside of two mistakes. Slipped on one sack if I remember. Seems like people have an agenda on Ickey to be honest. Really improved over last game. I’m feeling good about his play. He looked way ahead of the other rookie Neal, RT for the giants.

I’m a Tar Heel and I’m the same way, always root for App when we aren’t playing them. Most of my App friends are Tar Heel basketball supporters, so a lot of overlap.

Nicely done! Looks like a beautiful day, and nice size fish!

I went to Wilson Creek three weeks back and it was still too warm, had to stop fishing by 7:30am. If you go, let me know how it is. Hopefully the water temp has come down in the last few weeks.

How did Neal look last week? I know he struggled at RT during pre-season, but I did not watch the Giants game, but it sounds like you did. I always thought Cross was the most ready pass protection LT, and Ickey was the best run game LT with very high upside as a pass protector. I feel Neal is too big and not a LT. But I’m the first to admit I’m no expert evaluating O-line.

There is a lot of potential in this group, but will they live up to it and go beyond potential and upside? My very unpopular opinion is that this years QB group is over hyped. Some of them remind me of the Tua hype. And I think he was waaaay over rated coming out. Admittedly I have no insights to back this up, just a gut feel. So feel free to bash my opinion

I agree with this. It would be extremely important who they surround themselves with. The vet dream DC would be Vic Fangio. Then you can completely let go of the defense.

I was hoping for Humphrey as well, that one was a hard pill to swallow no doubt.

I think taking a LS in round six was asinine. But the ongoing complaints from many posters that we were the stupid ones not drafting him when nobody else did either until Chiefs did in the sixth round is a bit much. We’ve done plenty of stupid stuff, but that one is a stretch.

Every team and gm in the league passed on him until the sixth round. Chiefs passed on him for five rounds. A center on the second round was a no brainer, but the sixth round guard? People need to let that one go, it is 100% hindsight.

I was surprised how good Elflein (excl. snap issues, not sure who was at fault) looked. I think our o-line will get really good over the next couple of games. Encouraging.

This is one of the weirder discussions I’ve seen, and that says a lot. We were in the lead at the end of the game. Doesn’t matter what happened before that. Should we been better? Yes. Does Rhule suck? Yes. Is it our fault we are in this situation? Yes. But at this point we were in the lead, unless people want to say we weren’t in the lead (hint, we were in the lead). On the final Browns drive they got two extremely questionable calls going their way, and won the game. There is no big conspiracy theory here, the refs messed up and thereby helped the Browns win. This could not be more clear.

The second half gave me some hope. Will it carry over to the next game? I don’t know, but I’ll stay optimistic. I’m very torn, as I want Rhule and Snow out of here, but I also want some wins, it is a tough situation to be in, no doubt.

I wouldn’t waste any money in FA at this point. The coaches need to coach what they have. Save what you have to spend for next year.

I think everyone is aware the first half was terrible.

It shows he finished the game really well after a terrible start. Could be something to build on for the next game. I’m 100% sure it is not a bad thing though.

Yes, Leftwhich would be very interesting as well. I still want to stick to the offensive side for a new HC.

100% agree with this

It is 100% Rhule’s fault, there is no doubt about that. But we also got screwed by the refs on the last drive. Not mutually exclusive. I loved this from the Raleigh Observer (?): “And as much as people will point to a questionable roughing-the-passer penalty on Brian Burns that jump-started the Browns’ winning drive and set up their long-range field goal for a 26-24 win, much of the blame lies where it so often does, on a head coach who managed to both settle for a field goal and leave too much time on the clock at the end, a pair of decisions that came back to bite him on each cheek. There’s a gym class somewhere missing Matt Rhule, whose team managed to look like 53 guys who were meeting for the first time in the first half only to be let down, once they figured things out, by their coach’s decision-making at the most critical moment in the second… Rhule even walked away with a timeout in his pocket after the Panthers got the ball back with 8 seconds to go, for all the world looking like a guy pulling a Full Costanza after finding out the Nebraska job was open. If the Panthers had any trophies, he’d be dragging them around the parking lot right now. That, at least, would have been a Rhule decision fans could get behind.”

That is a bit of a weird take as our pro bowl pass rusher did exactly what was needed on this last drive and got to the QB, only to have the refs step in.

I like Dorsey. We need to finally get a good play calling HC. Something is off with Bieniemy, he should have gotten a job a long time ago, lots of flags there.

One thing that might help this year is that we have a couple of coaches who can easily step in as HC. Wouldn’t mind seeing Tabor as HC, keep McAdoo as OC and do Wilks or Holcomb as DC. Or Wilks as HC.

I agree we didn’t play well enough to keep it from being a factor. However there were 6 games yesterday decided by 3 points or less. There are so many close games every week so too often calls like these become a factor.