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I don't think the Panthers are devoid of talent. I think some of the problems we have on Defense were trying to switch to a 3-4 when we really didn't have the people to run it and then moving away from it after we drafted a few players that fit that mode. On offense, I think it's a jumbled mess. We really don't have that guy outside of McCaffrey. There isn't a guy that defenses have to worry about taking away because we don't have a stud at any position. Moore gets yards, but not TDs. I'm hoping Marshall can develop into that guy. While he wasn't outstanding this year, but neither were Moose or Smith their rookie years.

I don't agree. Buffalo had 4 quarters to stop the cheifs. Their defense failed. Is Buffalo's team only the offense? They played, they failed. Game over.

Bills and Chiefs is the one I really wanted to see.

Falcon's fans..."told ya so!"

Yes. Win now teams usually weren't 5-11 the last two years.

If we don't fix the Oline, I want Chris Collingsworth to come play QB. I'd enjoy seeing him get hit every play.

Damn, the bucs are losing. How will I ever sleep tonight?

I did not watch the Bengals game so can't comment accurately. But I don't think that's a pattern for long term success. You might shoot with your eyes closed and hit the target once, but that doesn't mean you should adapt that as a strategy.

No they didn't. Their lineman were injured in the games previously.

All you have to do is watch the Superbowl last year to see you can have a great QB and a horrible offensive line brings him down. You don't need an excellent offensive line, but you aren't going to win with a shitty one no matter who the QB is.

I think the real difference is between us and the Bengals is that we lost a lot of our star players instead of adding to them. Keuchley, Bradberry, Olsen and Newton's injuries were some key factors. Of the last 4 seasons under Rivera, only one was a winning season. the phenomenal talents of Newton and McCaffrey hid some glaring gaps and as they faded, so did our Wins.

It's easy to forget how great that roster was. They lost almost all those games by 3 points or less. Fox drafter Peppers, Deshaun Foster and Will Witherspoon that year.

It's going to be different for each team. Getting Burrow was a game changer for the Bengals. Do you think Taylor gets to the AFC championship with Sam Darnold as his QB?

Are you kidding me? The 2002 roster had Muhammad, Smith, Walls, Steussie, Mitchell, Donnalley, Peppers, Jenkins, Buckner, Rucker, Fields, Morgan, Grant and Minter and Kasay. Which one of those would you kick out for one of the 2020 starters?

That's kind of cherry picking. Do you really want to use the Bengals as how not to have 7 years of losing seasons?

We need a good center. Elfein's injury history alone shows why.

It depends. If we start out 3-0 people will be here asking how to by superbowl tickets. Then when it fails, they'll be talking about how bad this team sucks. I think Rhule is back on a short leash. I think he has to break .500 or he's gone. Tepper is waiting for his investment to mature, but I would believe his patience is wearing thin.

Let's not forget, JR had 4 losing seasons in a row and two seasons with 2 or fewer wins and never has this team had a back to back winning season. It's not like we were a dominant team and Tepper came in and now we completely suck. There have been highs and lows, but mostly mediocre throughout the panthers history.

Exactly. You aren't going to install a new offensive system in a week.

1. I haven't seen us fumble a punt return in a while. The guy can't return one more than 5 yards, but as least he secures it. 2. Kicker/punter. Have been pretty solid, even after injuries. Sly lost us games between missed kicks and XPs.

I might. They score more often.

I think turtle porn might be more exciting than this game.

I'd take Harbaugh is a split second over just about any prospects.

That's too bad. I thought he looked better tha Paradis. At least he didn't seem to get pushed back into the QB as much.

I was surprised. I have said on here several times I think it would take 3 years for this team to be decent because we were in such bad shape when Rhule came in. I thought we'd do better against some of the teams and worse against others. But I was not expecting us to be better than .500.