Khyber53

I've got to agree. His instincts make him a better linebacker. My only worry is that his build might be a bit slight for the role and I'd worry about his durability there. Still, how he played at LB was spectacular and once he left that position we suffered.

Kyler Murray doesn't look old enough to fly on a plane by himself to New York, much less QB a football team. As someone else here once said, "He's just two little kids in a trench coat."

So great to see that! I liked your OP, and I think that Detroit is going to go QB and take Willis in an effort to jump start that nearly dead franchise. They've got the kind of coach that can make that happen and a desperate need to slough off the old turtle shell they've been wearing. And that could well leave us with an excellent tackle at pick #6. I think there's even a chance that Neal goes first between the two because of the Alabama powerhouse program thing. The program has better pro credentials than NC State. And I'd love to see Ickey end up here. If we trade back, wayyy back, what chance do you think there is that we really swerve and stay away from QB and OT? I've said we need Linderbaum for long-term planning here, but honestly, we need a first class LB and no one is talking about that. If we're sitting back at say pick 16-20, and Nakobe Dean is still on the board, do we pull the trigger?

Get the name of a good therapist for the guy and his ex, then send him a polite note on a slip of pink paper. Then officially release the contract and move on. We don't have to have a team of choir boys, but we DO need to have a team of good men.

I'm not agreeing with all of your previous statements, but that Romanowski and Incognito were thugs of the worst kind. To be honest, I think Dan Morgan during his playing time could be considered one as well. The guy had a penchant for dishing out concussions, including at least one to a rookie teammate that pretty much ended his career.

The credit cards always win in the end. Always.

Everyone always thinks they can outsmart the credit cards. No one ever really does.

Fitter-magic! Can somebody just pull the lever and flush this regime? We're stuck with Tepper but surely we can move on from this set of failed experiments, hopefully a little wiser now.

Tepper's brass balls were bought on Sharper Image and it shows.

I don't think much will help this franchise until there's a regime change.

Mills, not Darnold, you dolt.

There sure are a lot of things Tepper says/wants that haven't come to fruition. Might be a good thing that he's full of hot air. Maybe some of the important stuff will remain here.

Mayfield will also be playing angry from all reports.

Both these guys are coming from programs where they proved they can succeed in the NFL, both are also coming in from offseason shoulder/arm surgeries. Both were replaced by high draft pick QBs and both came from some of the most competitive divisions in the league. I'm going to postulate that one of these guys is going to play lights out when they come back. Not like Drew Brees heading to New Orleans, but potentially like a Ryan Tannehill in Tennessee. If we caught that guy and had that success, then it would be great. The problem is, which one of the guys? If you get the one, then it's better than a draft pick QB. If you get the wrong one, you're probably stuck again like we've been since Cam's shoulder went out.

Any one of which would be an upgrade here. Look, I'm not a huge Jimmy G fan, but it would probably (probably) be an improvement for us. Still, with this coaching staff, they could turn Drew Brees (2012-ish vintage say) into a five win, 20 TD, 12 INT QB. No matter who we get to play QB, if the coaches can't call a pro-level game, then it doesn't matter.

Sheesh, wouldn't it be nice to just have play off stats? It's been a long time since we've had any here.

Honestly, I felt that Garoppolo had tremendous upside as a trade. He's a winner, if not a spectacular star guy, and he brings a good set of skills to the table. He's also been part of two successful programs and that helps in the locker room. And then there was the shoulder surgery. And no one knows what we'll have after the fact. He might be fine. He might even be better. Or he could be like Cam and just the husk of the QB he used to be and an actual liability in the passing game. Whereas I might have been hopeful if he'd been the QB pick up before, now I'm really worried that he might be and that we'd be hamstrung by the trade and another broken QB who isn't up to snuff.

After the draft, the prices on QBs like Baker and Jimmy will come down immensely. And I still hope we hold off. I don't think we should allow a coach fighting for his job to endanger future drafts.

Honestly, we should have just kept Taylor Heinicke and skipped the whole Teddy and Sammy show and built the o-line. We wouldn't have been any worse off.

Just thinking the same thing this morning. It is imminently harder to find and snag a Jake Delhomme than it is to find a Cam Newton type. Both are unicorns in their own way, but the Newtons are so incredibly obvious that no one could miss on picking them. Delhommes, well, they're out there, sitting on someone's bench, doing great in preseason and just waiting for their chance. I keep thinking there's got to be one somewhere...

I believe that even if they put him out there, they won't fully believe he can do it. And that'll affect play calling. And that will affect quarterbacking. And that will affect winning.

And processing speed. The game is too fast and too complex at this level for all but a handful of human beings at this time. Toughest position to play on any team sport and for good reason.

I wish you were wrong, but there's a lot of truth to this. And I'm not sure that Lawrence will ever pan out. Just too many question marks about coaching and the team around him there. I think out of the whole bunch, Mac Jones found himself in the best spot and will probably have the best career. (Yes there was that single digit pass attempts game, but that was also the game plan due to the weather).

Those are some historically bad franchises at the top of the draft capital chart. There's a definite correlation between draft resources and the inability to make use of them. The Giants shows how fast a team can fall from the heavens and become bottom dwellers.

I know, I know, I know, Fit is an independent genius saddled with Rhule, yadda yadda. I'm not impressed by what he's done, either independently or dependently of Rhule. He's just Gettleman who wouldn't be caught dead at a yard sale and lower riding shorts. Let's see if he can turn four picks into 14 this year and still manage to not grab a 17-game starter. Edit to add: Let's make it easier, just an 8 game starter.