Khyber53

We shall see.

No, it doesn't. Taking Richardson with so little experience and rough performance based purely on speculated potential is well, just a bad idea.

I really just can't wait to see the free agency moves, the draft, training camp, preseason and finally, the season start again. I haven't been this excited and optimistic about the Panthers in half a decade.

Dude's gone and not missed. I wish him the best but really, he's someone else's headache now. And Arizona has a whole, heaping pile of them. They are the Divas of the Desert.

I've said it elsewhere, many times over. Here we go again. I'd stay out of the Carr, Lamar and probably Aaron Rodgers kerfuffle that is going to see at least two teams overpay and get cheated. Look for another vet to fall out of contention who can serve as a good bridge/backup. Let the coaching staff take a good, solid look at Matt Corral -- which I am sure they have already done at this point. If they think there is a possibility there, go with him and look to add that veteran presence to help him mature quickly. If he's not the guy, then move to the draft. In the draft, forget about the massive manboy crushes the four top QBs are attracting right now. Two out of four are statistically going to wash out and cost teams mightily. There's a chance that it's three out of four. Let someone else waste good potential on bad returns. One out of the four will most likely be excellent, but which one... no one knows. In the first round, we set back and let the worst teams pursue those QBs, leaving much better players on the board at #9 than one would normally expect. We take the best player available. My pecking order for this would be DE, TE, LB, CB. At number nine it is almost guaranteed that at least one of bona fide best at their position players will be left in one of those spots. Take them. In our first pick in the second round, grab the best of the remaining positional guys from what is left from that list of four. Stay out of the quarterback race at all until the end of the second, probably the early third round. There are going to be some very good QBs there... Tennessee, Georgia and TCU will all have QBs out there still, perhaps not Madden-darlings, but solid, battle tested and championship earning guys. There's where the finds of the draft will be. Grab the one that best suits our coaching staff's long-term vision. Go into camp with them and Corral competing for the job, spurred along and cushioned by a good journeyman vet. Wish PJ Walker the best and maybe give Darnold a chance for back-up QB money, perhaps with some incentives for playoff performance. Build the team they want and give some QBs a chance. If those QBs don't clear the bar, we still have high picks out there and the perennially bad teams will have probably four high pick QBs filling their rosters and won't be in the immediate running next year.

You realize that by your own statement, grabbing those moves in the first round neither helped nor harmed them. But they did hurt the teams. Most of them have had changes of coaching since then (or are on the cusp of it). In each case, it was opportunities squandered. And in the 49ers case, it was just blind luck that the injury to Lance panned out so well, between Jimmy G and Purdy. Opportunity cost is a real, real thing. We shouldn't trade up, particularly when we are in a cap crunch like we are. We need to bring in multiple new guys on draft contracts to help us offset some really bad contracts and the lingering dead cap money from others. If anything, we should be willing to trade back and pick up more capital to spend less capital. Trading up into the first four picks of the draft, by the actual choices made historically over the last 8-9 years is just a terrible decision. The results don't lie.

Moore, by cost, should be our star player right now. And I've said for years, if your star player is a WR, you've got major issues. They cost too much, they don't touch the ball on every play and if they become unmotivated or just feel not as competitive, it will wreck your gameplan. Or one good DB can ruin it for you.

Doesn't it always end badly for the Cardinals? Not even just recently, but historically.

There's some very, very important information here that is missing. So, let me fill you in. Who got picked with those trade ups??? For the first example, the number 1 pick was used to get Jared Goff. Whew, not great. For the second example, pick number two was for Mitch Trubisky. Roundly considered a massive bust. For the third example, pick number two was for Carson Wentz. He couldn't outplay Taylor Heinicke. At all. For the fourth example, pick number three was for Trey Lance. Injured, so incomplete, but will probably be carrying a clip board behind last pick in the same draft... who played very well For the fifth example, pick number three went for Sam Darnold. Y'all know him. For the sixth example, the pick number four went to grab WR Sammy Watkins. He's been on six teams since he was drafted, the longest stint in Kansas City. Not worth the trade.. None of these guys were worth what was traded away for them. Keep that in mind when we look at the possibility of giving away a lot to move up in the draft.

This ^ 100%. And even the part about it feeling weird. If he's on the table for them, then he's there for a really good reason. If he's not, then there's a really good reason. We aren't approaching this like we're trying to recruit some guy with the promise of a scholarship and a starting gig vs some SEC team. Right now, even if they decide that Darnold will be the starter, I'm going to go, okay... you guys know better than me.

There are a load of excellent TEs in this class. I've even said I wouldn't hate taking one in the 1st round if he was still the BPA at 9 or even trade back a few spots to do so.

Makes me wonder what he'd give to have CMC back... or does he prefer a more smash-mouth type runner?

Or if he starts looking for more happy endings. The Browns didn't get what they hoped for, might have gotten what they deserved.

There are other QBs in the class that may be better fits for the coaching staff, ones with less hype and risk.

Before the OC hire, I was beginning to worry that we were moving to a very pass happy offense (albeit balanced by Duce Staley on staff), but this latest hire makes me think the balance is going to be very good and very strong between run and pass. This, on paper, is beginning to look like the beginnings of the best staff we've ever had. Still, we won't know for sure until the team hits the field, and then probably for a few games. The potential, though, is just so, I don't know... inspiring? Really can't wait to see the free agency moves and draft that we have. It's been a while since I've been this excited or optimistic for them! And thanks for the rundown of the staff signings so far, OP! And the assessments of potential candidates.

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She broke past the blonde bombshell barrier and never looked back. Talented, smart and determined lady.

Quit after 26 years of smoking, pack and a half a day. 10 years clear of it now, no cravings. That first year was tough, though. All that coughing and man I had no idea how much of a barrier all that tar was to allergens. Woof. Better on this side. Congrats, man.

Awww hell no.

I think someone is going to find out that his injuries are worse than appears and his recovery isn't where it should be. I hope we steer way clear of this or we could be sitting in the dunce seat like the Broncos have been this past season.

I think the surprise trade up will be from the Titans. The AFCSouth is a lot like the NFCSouth in that there is a real shortage of capable QBs. Jacksonville moved ahead of the pack this season (thanks greatly to a coaching change) and now the Titans, Colts and Texans are all in chase mode. Note how high in the draft both the Colts and Texans are... for best choice they are going to have to wheel and deal, perhaps really mortgage the farm to find something that can take some of the warmth away from Vrabel's seat. The NFCSouth has four teams with no decent QBs, so much so that Sam Darnold would probably be the best out of the bunch if it went ahead as is (if he were resigned). However, it's just Atlanta and Carolina in the top 10 picks, with the Saints and Bucs pinched a bit by placement, resources and cap space. I'd still prefer to see us grab BPA at 9, or even trade back, and try to get a solid QB prospect on day two. However, I'm looking at our coaching staff and thinking that if they see their man, I'll cheer their pick and applaud their wisdom.

I really want to argue against what you've said here... I start to write something, then I stop, figure on it a bit, then try a different angle, then just stop again. I think you've said volumes here and speak to the truth of the matter. Well done.

Brock Purdy outplayed basically every hyper mobile QB drafted into the league over the last two years. It's not about the rise of the mobile QB. It's not about pocket passers vs college schemes. Any type of QB can succeed (if they've succeeded at the college level) if they have one important trait: processor speed. It's either a "get it" or "don't get it" kind of thing and you won't know what you have until they've been on the field at the pro level. The defenses are better coached and more prepared than just about anything they've faced in college, and that's from the NFL's best to worst teams. Every player that takes the field would have been a star-level player at their college and at just about any college in the country. The concepts are heavier, with more moving parts than anything pushed at the college level... heck most plays end up being a trigonometry exercise moving at 18 mph with immeasurable numbers of collisions. It all breaks down to processing speed. Almost all of the guys at this level can move, either fairly well to excellent. They almost all have arm strength beyond what QBs had 15 years ago. Almost all of them can drop a football into a trash can from 30 yards out. And most of them can take more hits than their old school counterparts of yesteryear. What separates them is how they can slow down the game in their heads, see the field, assess threats and opportunities, avoid mistakes and exploit openings while a few million people watch and while a few million of their own dollars are potentially on the line, not to mention their long-term health. Trying to lock into some prototypical type of QB because of how the college game is right now is short sighted. It's be like I don't know, hiring some guy out of Baylor who was a motivator and was going the change how the game is coached. The league doesn't have to change and open up to a particular style of play. It just continues with the bloody of tooth method of survival it always has at the QB position... it's not what their style of play is, it is can they win and survive at it? It's a lot to ask a young man to go out there and carry a whole team and fandom on their shoulders. It's even more to ask an entire league to change just to give one particular type of player a better chance.

Gotta start somewhere.