Khyber53

If we'd just move to play action from traditional QB at the center placement, we could go into every play run blocking which would play to our strengths and reduce our weaknesses. But we're going to start from the shotgun position for 85% of the snaps so that PeeWee has a better chance of surviving, even if it kills the run game AND doesn't actually provide him with any better protection or field view.

This is very hard to argue against. Still, we've got to wait. And yet, it's going to suck until one day it miraculously doesn't. I do think the coach needs to challenge him to make things happen, to take control of a game rather than play within what is presented to him. Not many football games are won by playing within the other team's imposed boundaries.

Step one: Realize that the fastest and best WR on your team can't be a 32 year old white guy. Step two: Grab Smitty, Moose and Ricky Proehl and hire them on as draft advisors. Pick the guys they want. Step three: Pray.

Before we jump all over the Dan Morgan bandwagon... he's been part of this "rebuild", too. Back in his playing days I called him Mushy-head Morgan, partly because of his concussion history and greatly because he just made bone headed decisions. He's a dinosaur throwback Jock who terrorized some teammates and even ended the career of one of our draft picks by knocking the hell out of him in training camp -- just because he thought he needed to do that. His Panther connection and connection to Scott Fitterer got him this job, but he needs to be cleaned out with the same broom that takes Fitt. I hate to say it, but this thing needs to be blown up from the top down, from GM and HC to the training staff and scouting groups. if not we're looking at continuing for 20 more years of wandering around pointlessly in the desert.

He's not having a problem reading the field, I think he is really struggling to get to the spot where he can read the field. That not being able to see over the line thing is real. I hope he proves me wrong, but whew, he just plays so passively.

Panthers 24 Bears 21 It'll give us just another tantalizing look that makes us think maybe we can make it with Bryce. And win or lose, the Bears have still got great draft picking numbers. Maybe, just maybe, we will be like San Francisco after they traded away everything for Trey Lance.

Yeah, but that defense can't stop the run, can't stop the pass, can't pressure the quarterback. Our best work is in the red zone because we have so much less field to defend. Seriously. The defense sucks as bad as the offense, we just don't happen to have a player out there we spent two number one draft picks on who looks like he came from the wee tiny people of Gulliver's Travels. We need to call for a new plan.

Yeah, you're right everyone outside of Chuba, Luvu and Tremble seems to have regressed. And yes, it points management and coaching. And yes, we were told ad nauseum what an all-star staff we were putting together here. My one thought is.. if Reich could put together a decent staff to make things work out, how come he didn't do that in Indianapolis and get that worked out? I think we're watching a man get sped by on the speedway... he's gone from the days when he weaved through traffic and made good time to the point where he just shakes his head and proclaims everyone is out to get killed out there! He got him some young blood to run the offense and defense and then, well, didn't really let them. And he's been saddled with doing some kind of lame hybrid 3-4/4-3 that we've been stuck in since the last year of the Rivera regime as we try and fit our square peg into the round hole of Tepper's dream team of New Pittsburgh South. Sheesh. This is just a season where you've got to look at what's on the field and say, "Don't you see this isn't working? Any of it? Not even a little?"

In on every deal, tried to get smart and draw to an inside straight flush. Ended up with Queen high. We are the morons at the poker table.

Well, we're in such desperate straights to hire yet another guy trying to get one last paycheck that we've even tossed away any thought to character. Mr. Tepper, I'm willing to come out of retirement and play linebacker, too. Vet minimum. No outstanding warrants.

Think about this... the team has been on a long, downhill slide since the days when it was Jerry Richardson, Marty Hurney and Ron Rivera. To get a long downhill slide from there requires excavation... deep digging and creating a new definition for the bottom. These are my Panthers and it's getting to the point where it really, deeply hurts watching what they've become. We have gone from playing in the Super Bowl to being a mid to low energy division III NCAA football team. I'm not sure we could beat fuging Lenoir-Rhyne or Campbell with this team.

I can't argue against that at all.

This ^ 100 percent. This is a bad team, across the board. Poorly put together, poorly built, poorly trained, poorly motivated, poorly played. Of the 53 people on this team right now, maybe three would start on another team, and 10 more might find roster spots. I haven't seen a Panthers team this bad since the Weinke season. And we're beginning to look worse. Offense and defense. I'd blow it up and trade everyone in the offseason including the Liliputian quarterback for whatever I could get. This place needs a fire sale.

Johnson is just another one of the examples that we have a really, really bad talent evaluation group here. When was the last time they really hit on a veteran pick up besides Adam Thielen? Crickets man, crickets.

For once, I'm pulling for the villain, errr, Vilain... Good luck to him!

I hope Reich can turn it around here, I really do. I just don't like what we're seeing on the field. I think the team is very passive and seems poorly conditioned (beyond the massive number of injuries we've had). Maybe it will all work out. I just wish it would start really moving that way. Soon.

I hope he can return to his old form. He really, really had so much potential before injuries did him in. Good, good guy, he deserves this chance he's getting and I hope he just makes the most of it.

I want to say, here we go, look at us, we've got it fixed and got a win. But I still can't shake it when I watch the games... this isn't a team that has it together. We just look hapless, on-coordinated, unsure and somewhat passive. They keep telling us that Bryce is doing a good job out there taking what the defense gives. And I can't help but think that's not how football is supposed to be played. The objective is to impose your will on the opponent. We show no signs whatsoever that we even feel like we can do that. I wish I was saying something different, but this isn't a very well coached team, from the top on down. They aren't playing like a group of professionals. There's just too many mistakes, no rhythm, no push and a decided lack of energy. I feel like the cats got neutered.

Is it me or is the world just getting weirder and the more money and power someone has, the weirder they get?

He can't even take advice on a haircut, I'm not holding out hope on his picking a HC or GM. It has been a long, long, long time since the Raiders were the Raiders. There's no feel of the dangerous group of misfits and bad dudes anymore. Their fan base is scarier than the team. (obligatory Marc Davis haircut gif)

Hardest position to find is an ace LT. Might be even fewer good ones in the league than there are good QBs. We've got to have some patience here and hold onto hope that we found one.

Almost every great OT has a rough second season. Just part of the deal. He's going to get better.

Brian Burns did not earn Bosa bucks. And he hasn't yet so far this year. I sure wish he had, but that's just what it is.

Lot of different opinions here. And that's probably what's wrong... too many things not working to the point it seems impossible to fix one and move on. Let's see if two weeks of preparation against a team that was demonstrably worse than us last season with a rookie QB and HC will show any improvement.

Teams that are going nowhere rarely have guys working hard to come back from injuries quickly. And teams with a lot of injuries tend to go nowhere. We are in the moment of the dog chasing its own tail futility.