Khyber53

That's better than we've fielded in quite a while.

Zappe is going to be a good NFL QB. BB will be trading him off in two seasons to someone for major picks.

I always thought another GM tried talking Gettleman into taking Butler as a joke. "Yeah, he's going to be a mega star, trust me, he's going to be the best thing ever." And dumpster diving Gettleman just knew he'd found that diamond in the rough.

BC, Icky, Mays, Corbett, Moton. I'd rather see Icky at LT but I think if you work with Mays at Center, then you put the biggest, strongest guy right beside him and let the two work out the teamwork.

Arms too short to reach the ball.

I've been pounding on that drum for a couple of years now. No one listens.

If they don't get Center fixed, then they'll never fix the line or the QB situation.

Can't argue with it much.

They don't give you do over years in the pros.

It's not just Corral and it has been like this since the beginning. I don't think Rhule is as good at developing players as an NFL coach has to be. How many players have actually gotten better here since they were brought on board? I don't believe Corral will get better under his tutelage or regime. Mayfield, Darnold and Bridgewater were brought here because they were "developed" players and not projects. Walker was brought in as a former star pupil. This isn't a recipe for success. And it's mirrored across the team, from offensive line to defensive line, DBs and WRs. If you didn't show up with a ton of talent, you aren't getting better here. If you did, then that's what you operate on instead of getting better. There's better roster development and long range planning on most Yahoo fantasy football teams than a Rhule-coached Panthers team.

In the past, at this time of the year, we didn't look like we were handling the vanilla scheme very well. I think it means he has a good grasp of the fundamentals and has put those in place for the offense. That doesn't mean Superb Owl but it definitely could be a strong base for us to build from.

Barno and Tae Hayes were outstanding. Ricci had a better game as a TE than Ian Thomas has ever posted to date. Shi Smith looked like he should have looked last preseason, let's hope he can carry it over to the real season.

Considering the investments made in the guys ahead of him and Rhule's commitment to give PJ a shot at getting a job somewhere else (he's really made for the USFL), then Corral's performance today is to be expected and probably is good for him. He's got some experience in the room around him from actual starters and his OC has played with some of the best in the game. If he's going to have to sit for a season, this is the kind of situation that pans out well for a guy like him. Then, there's the darker side of this that plays out well for Corral's future. The HC is playing for his own career here. If Rhule doesn't pan out and has to hit the road, Corral hasn't been tampered with much and won't have a bunch of bad habits for the next coach to contend with. He's got two guys ahead of him that are on the ends of their contracts, too, and a new regime could be tempted to cut bait with them next season and give Corral a better shot.

Looked good up until that last quarter and a half. I think they'd sent in a lot of the guys that are just hoping for a ST slot. On one play there were a ton of missed tackles until JJ Jansen and his walker made it down there to clean things up. Still, that first ST group was great on kick off coverage and blocking for the FG team. Gonzalez and Hekker look like a good duo to keep.

Yeah, the Elflein experiment ended badly. Then again, Bozeman had his rough moments after that, too.

Honestly, kind of non-descript. That's not a bad thing, though. He seemed to be holding his own without getting Holding penalties.

Patience. He's got a lot to work on. Yes, he was out there behind a line composed of practice squad players, but he was also up against a defense mainly made of practice squad players. He played like a third round draft pick rookie in his first preseason game. That's not a crime and it's not necessarily anything to show what he will become. Give him some time and let PJ have some audition time as well for his next stop. Howell, though to be honest, is going to be pushing for a starting spot very soon. The kid has the IT factor in spades, just doesn't have the experience yet.

Congrats and enjoy!

Probably, but the knife keeps getting whetted, you know?

It's just a microcosm of society at the moment. Whether it's the family Thanksgiving table or a stadium for a home-team only football event, a group of once allied folks gather like kindling wood just waiting for someone to strike a match.

For some folks, it's an eternity. In the NFL, that can be an entire career.

DJ is a good, Good man. Hope he has his best season so far! Glad he's here with us for the long haul.

Super-wealthy know-it-alls who come in to show everyone how things ought to be done, only to create a dumpster fire of everything while still proclaiming their greatness. If anything outside of the pandemic describes the last 10 years or so, then this is it.

I have absolutely no idea of what we'll see. And that has me flummoxed about this season -- I have no idea what we have and what we can do with it. I don't trust the glimmers of hope to pan out, I don't trust the coaching; I do, somehow, think there's a chance that Mayfield comes in and makes our offense better, but it's just a chance. With that uncertainty for the season's outlook, I can't seem to even put together what we should see for the first preseason game. Maybe what I want to see come out of this game is just a bit of clarity, some kind of direction, something positive to hang the team's hat on. But that's a lot to ask of preseason game one.