Khyber53

I'd rather not see us trade away excellent players while Rhule is still in control. They may be necessary when we get back to playing real football again. We do have some dead wood that can be traded away or jettisoned. How about we see what we can get for Robby Anderson? Maybe our PR department can put together a sizzle reel of his highlights and shop his Sideshow Bob a$$ around a bit. We could get lucky and grab a fourth or something for him. Let's stick with the draft picks we've got, keep the core players we have and just try to survive the last season of Matt Rhule. There's better football down the road, let's try to have something left in the cupboard for the next coach.

Let's hope they do neither. The fewer picks that Rhule has, the better it will be for the organization. Hopefully he can somehow nail the first rounder and then just fiddle about with the rest of the picks like he did last time. Let's just get this last season of Rhule over with quickly and with as little long term damage as possible.

100% truth right there. The difference between losing franchises and winning franchises. It is that straightforward.

Some people will always invest in things they don't understand because they think that if someone else understands it, then they will be okay. Sadly, it doesn't work that way in the real world.

Grab him since he will be there. Take the pick and don't worry about what anyone else says, just get that line in place, young and able. If the new coordinators and coaches can do their thing with them, Rhule might be able to save his own job. If he goes QB first, then it's over for him before week six.

Hunker down, hold on and DO NOT buy Crypto no matter what. Crypto is about to go dotcom bubble burst and they are advertising like crazy to sell off their "supply". Right now, it is a sucker's play. Tomorrow it will be worthless. Seriously, on stocks, hold what you've got. In a downturn you don't lose money unless you sell (unless you bought some risky meme stocks).

I don't trust our ability to evaluate free agents. I know, I know, Marty Hurney influence and all, but there was a whole staff involved in finding these protective washouts and there hasn't been a complete turnover in that department. Still not sure how good they are at evaluating linemen in the draft, but once they played their guys this past season, both were an upgrade over the veteran pick-ups they replaced. Build the line. Get Tyler Linderbaum in the first, don't get all tricksy and trade back just snag him, and set the center of the line for the next decade. He's going to get bigger, but you won't find a better skillset and ceiling out there in free agency. Grab another back up guard in the draft and keep Elflein as a starting guard and mentor for Linderbaum this season. Snag a QB late in the draft with the idea of setting up your future back-up, but understand that he will most likely get some field time before the end of the year. We might strike gold, but if not, we're ready for the next season's pick up of a potential franchise QB. I mean, since we have tied ourselves to the mast of the sinking Rhule ship.

Stafford would have been in the hospital by week six.

The no state income tax thing with Florida makes the Bucs a very interesting option for big name QBs looking to work out one last three year contract for their best money ever. Puts more bucks into their pockets. That is a HUUUUUGE selling point. Arians, building a team that was just a QB away with a steady offensive line and good receivers just seals the deal. They will get one of the big names looking for a victory lap.

I stand corrected. Once we get down to the fourth round, it's really BPA anyway, isn't it. Still, grab a QB, give him a shot. We're going to need a back-up QB anyway.

Let's see who is available in the third round, maybe even the fourth. Fix the line, pick up a QB late and give him a shot. He's not got any competition from our bench and we have nothing to lose from it. Hell, we dropped a draft pick on a long snapper we won't even be using last year!

I'd take neither.

Finally he will be housed among the greatest. He deserved it from the day he first put on a helmet as a small kid until the sad day when all he had left was his undying legacy. A man well greater than his stature and his longevity.

Well said and I love both of the guys, they are paragons of what being a Panther is. In the end, injuries spelled the demise of both of their games, with a couple of years of riding the last of their ability/reputation into the sunset. Sad, but true, that once a QB injures that throwing arm/shoulder, it's probably the end for them. Let's try to remember both guys for their days in the sun, rather than the gloomier ones at the end. Whatever anyone can say about either Jake or Cam, they always, always, always made the games interesting here.

Dang! They ain't wrong, but he'll learn more in Buffalo and develop a longer career by starting there. The man was not ready to be an OC, and still probably isn't.

Honestly, man, Mr. Scott is one of the most knowledgeable and even-handed commentators on this board and has been for as long as I can remember. If he's commenting in a thread, then there's going to be some meat to the discussion. Agree or disagree with him, it'll be informative, well nuanced and have some history or stats to back it up. And if he starts a thread, it's real need to know information. I disagree with him sometimes, but I always appreciate what he has to say.

And him, too~ Of course.

Flame away, but Jake Delhomme was still the greatest Panther. Dude needs a statue. (But not one with the ripped pants...) Cam won game after game because he was such a distinct and unique talent on the field. Powerful arm, huge size, one of the best open field runners to ever play the game. He could become Superman and stay that way for an entire game. Jake, however, could drag a team out of the mud, lift them all up and grind out tough win after tough win. He literally was at his best when things got their toughest. He could read and manipulate defenses, he could call protections with the best of them and more than anything, the dude believed in his teammates and elevated them. He doesn't get enough credit for Smitty winning the receiving triple crown one year and then Moose getting close to it the following season when Smitty was injured. When it was over, though, it went bad fast as these things often do. We remember too much of that Arizona game and the following season, and not enough of when he was the guy that always, always, always gave us a shot to win.

Honestly, it's not a bad idea. Rhule, if he is to evolve, needs someone whispering in his ear that he's mortal. And it would give him a year of scouting this team, the NFC South and learning the personalities and locker room politics here. Such info would put him in an advantageous position to either assist Rhule directly as an OC or to take over as the next HC should the Rhule experiment continue to flame out.

I'd go for the old "dude has a problem and I hope he gets some professional help" but, damn that's not a personal stash. That would be more than the personal stash of Parliament Funkadelic on a three month road trip! Four grams of crack cocaine amongst all of that? Did one of his clients accidentally a rock fall out of their pocket while sitting in the back seat or something? Dude could legit look at that haul and say there's no way the crack is his. Whew, dang. Mobile pharmacy right there. Amazed there's not a cash register and drink cooler stationed by the passenger door.

Back-up, reserve long snapper apparently. Now, one could say that is some deep, deep planning. Everyone else will say, yep, that was a waste.

Wow, Byron has really done well for himself! Good luck on buying the team, I think he'll certainly help the League evolve to a better place!

I really felt that if Harbaugh had made the leap to the Vikings, a whole chain of events would have led to the end of this nightmare debacle. It didn't, no matter how much I hoped it would. Buckle up folks, the car's owner has refused to take the keys from the drunken driver. This next season is going to be the Uber ride from Hell.

My guess for WR coach, considering the DL coach hire: Either: or

We didn't hire him because he took a good profile pic. We didn't hire him to get the early bird senior discount special at Golden Corral. We hired him to coach the defensive line. Sheesh, let's hope he can do it. Last guy couldn't, and that was supposed to be one of our strengths. This guy looks like if he got down into a D-line four point stance he's not getting back up from it. We may not have any linemen with their hand in the dirt this season. Or he could be that old guy that goes out there and shows people how men play the game. That would be awesome.