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But Scot what about my immediate emotional reaction and my hot takes? What do you mean just hope for the best for my favorite sports team?

No this was a panic move I've done this trade in madden we could've gotten him for a 6th and a bag of chips we're doomed. What's that Josh fugin Rosen went for a 2nd and a 5th? Well fug

Our fans love to be negative and wrapped in self loathing and misery that they'll take taking a flyer on a young QB for the highest cost being next year's second as a franchise destroying mood. God forbid someone be happy that the the team is making moves that improve us. Higher chance he's mediocre over being the next hot thing but like. This isn't going to hurt us.

Adam Gase was the QB coach for the Jets the past two years. I trust our coaching staff we got the most out of Teddy B. Worst case we lost a 2nd round pick for him. We gave up that much for Armanti Edwards. Somehow I don't think this will be the move to damn us to help like many doomposters here seem to think.

No. There's people with 1/1000th of the influence and power Watson holds and their victims are still scared to speak up. This is a very common thing amongst sexual assault/abuse victims no matter the gender. That's why these claims usually come out in droves.

Lol Parsons is an incredibly talented, gifted LB. He ain't a check the play get everyone in position know what's about to come at him type of Mike. If you don't like Shaq you probably won't like Parsons.

There's a tooooon of noise that if the Falcons don't take him, Pitts might be the pick.

I'm a person who wouldn't mind Mac Jones at 7, and while I think if there's a guy you like get him I cannot believe they traded up to 3 for Mac Jones. That said I think Mac Jones compares favorably to Matt Ryan so I think this is just the type of QB Shanny likes. Shout outs to the Dolphins though turned their LT into 4 first round picks.

I think Parsons is a great player but I really, really don't think he's an every down mike in the NFL. Much more of a Sam. Definitely is a sideline to sideline guy but good lord when he gets misdirected he completely takes himself out of the play. Okay in zone and didn't play a lot of man. Never played up to that 4.3 speed on tape either. Much rather go with Horn over Parsons.

I don't care if hes the starter week one I only care if hes the starter week 1 with no competition/replacement behind him.

Theres things D.J. can do that Julio can't. There's things Julio can do that Num can't There's things Nuk can do that Julio can't. When AB wasn't a complete headcase there were things he could do that neither could. Top 5 is relative to current competition. Not a checklist of things that you have to do to be considered top 5.

D.J.s game isn't comparable to Hops where he is a goddamn mauler with elite WR and he is not the physical specimen with the best body control the NFL has seen at the position. But that does not mean D.J. is fringe top 5. D.J.' s biggest areas of weakness are our last two QBs area of strength -- beating the press and finding separation on shorter routes. In intermediate to deep areas of the field D.J. has CONSTANTLY won and gotten open just no one to deliver him the ball.

D.J. and it's not close. I'll take one fringe elite WR who won't be 25 when resigned than two solid WRs pushing 30.

They also had a bunch of money to splurge in one of their free agencies under McVay and the most draft capital that went into any one player was two firsts and not three firsts + a bunch of other stuff for one Player but hey yeah I like making comparisons without having all the facts.

Don't get this one. The savings are so minimal for a player who produced well.

Reddit is acting like we've signed a death warrant but for the price this is a prettt safe signing ar a position of need. Even if he shits the bed it won't hurr to move kn from him like Pardis or Kalil. Low risk low reward.

Welcome to the huddle. The emotions here are driven entirely by homerisim.

Gettleman has an eye for talent and what works in the nfl for the most part, but his fetish for big men on the line and him liking the smell of his own poo too much really hamper him as a GM.

I'd agree with that latter part. But I think there's only a handful of QBs that can elevate their team with 2< playmakers on their team, and maybe only about 2 in the league right now. That said there's not many QBs who can survive behind a bad O-line. This isnt a knock on Watson but even with all.of his skills the Texans went out of their way to build that O-Line around him, at least the Tackles anyway. And look at Russ making noise because he's tired of getting hit. Any QB is gonna need an O-Line if they want to be able to consistently press downfield, if the pocket fugs up then a lot of QBs are gonns break down. I've seen Alabmas line give up quick pressure and Jones move around with a plan in the pocket to make a throw. If the pocket allows that and not instant "haha you're fuged" pressure there's not a single reason to believe Jones can't do that in the NFL.

I'd say they're all comparable tbh. Matt Ryan/Eli Manning is a pretty fair comp imo, though I'd say he's better ar moving in the pocket and throwing off platform than both. I also think he has a better ability to throw on a rope than Ryan too.

That's completely fair. I think he has above average (no where near the Elite canons the other QBs in the draft, and I 100% agree he dulls in comparison to those arms. But I still like him. And I still think he's a 1st round talent easy. Yeah he threw to wide open guys but that's not his fault. Fields threw to wide open guys all the time (and note: I like Fields as a prospect more than Jones) but we still hype of Fields. I think the little things Mac does, shoulder fackes, holding safeties, decision making, etc is second to only TL (and in the case of Shoulder Fakes and DB manipulation I'd give a slight edge to Macorkie) and if a 5eam can make it to the SB with a solid playmaking defense and a top 5 HB with Jared fugin Goff getting spoonfed Info I have no doubt Jones can do that too, he's a wayyyyy better prospect coming out than Goff was. That all said could be wrong! I'm not gonna act like he's a burner but if he puts up something like a 4.9-5.0 I don't have too much concern personally I think he has good enough improv skills and I think improvisation as a whole while strong, is a tad overated as guys with very average to okay mobility have been in the SB more recently than not, but I'm Also not gonna act like the NFL isn't treading that way and that someone like Jones COULD get phased out.

Truly a convincing counter argument

Herbert obviously has better arm talent. But that alone not why Herbert was a great player this season. I like Mac Jones. I think he can become a very good QB in the NFL. He' a got a good arm and he has shown he can make every throw you can ask for. Great pocket movement. Doesn't have a cannon like any of the top prospects in this draft, but I think he fits in a system much like Brady's like a glove. Personally I like trying to trade up to 3 and getting whoever is there between Fields or Wilson the best but i don't think walking away with Mac at 8 and building our roster up through the draft doesn't hurt either. This coaching staff has shown they know how to get the most out of what they have. And if they like Mac Jones, a guy they had a week long interview with at 8? Cool. If not? Cool. Tons of talent in the top 8 this year.

I remember you being very strongly against Herbert last year too. Look at the player not the Helmet. Was he throwing to wide open guys? Absolutely but he was making pinpoint throws more often than not. Great movement in the pocket and has more than functional ability to improv and throw on the run. Even if he turns out to be a Joe Flacco/Jay Cutler ceiling we'll be fine with him.