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I don't understand. Was Corral not doing mental reps on the sidelines or something?

Quick! Someone tell me how many training camp reps Howell got!

Welp. He looks like a rookie. Throwing hospital balls and staring down his receiver.

Send out PJ again. I want to see a meltdown

Good drive.

This aged well

This. NFL Football is my #1 favorite sport. And you couldn't pay me enough to go and attend a live game. It's a miserable experience if you're actually trying to see the game, and 100% of the games I've attended included embarrassing drunken belligerence. The last game I went to was a pre-season game up here in Baltimore and I saw a very drunk Ravens fan punch out a very drunk female Panthers fan, and I was straight up Peter Griffon "Done!" gif with the whole in person "experience" at that point.

I suspect someone gets stashed on the IR. Moore Anderson Higgins Smith Zylstra - Roberts (KR/PR) Saunders and Kirkwood will shoot it out with Zylstra for the last spot. But I think Zylstra nabs it. He's reliable, sturdy and has proven he can haul in a catch during real games. That always wins out over training camp heroes. And I suspect TMJ or Smith gets IR'd by the end of pre-season.

I want to see Baker in a live game, and how our offense clicks with him under center. Do we have the confidence to open it up a little. I don't expect McAdoo to show too much of his playbook, but I want to see if our QB and WR corps can stretch the field vertically.

Someone put a protection detail on Matt Corral. Otherwise this guy's gonna be on his leg like a chihuahua in heat.

I just hope somewhat decent QB play (which we've definitely not had the last 2.5 years) will decrease our reliance on CMC to be the bulk of our offense. I understand the whole he's paid to play, and he's a unique weapon. But damn, there's a smart way to use a weapon. We treat CMC like a knife on Forged in Fire.

Okay, so we're Spinal Tap:

Them's fightin' words!

Baker Mayfield was a top QB in the draft. Sam Darnold was arguably a top QB in the draft. Jameis Winston was a top QB in the draft. And if you're dysfunctional enough to have the number 1 overall pick, the odds are better than chance that the top QB in the draft isn't going to be your franchise savior. So maybe you should start rooting for the team to do well with the pieces we have, and get over your loser mentality of hoping we suck enough that next year we might find a magic bullet.

That was my always my thinking. OBJ was and is just a headcase, and his talent doesn't balance out the radioactivity and distraction he brings to a locker room. And I remember distinctly thinking after watching Baker's really impressive, but raw rookie year that OBJ was the worst person you could add to the Browns if you're trying to help Baker develop. Now OBJ's on his third team, and the Browns gave up on their #1 overall pick. Baker's gonna surprise people here.

The pick isn't what matters. Hell, we should throw in a 7h round pick! What matters is offloading his salary and cap hit, which we'd take if we cut him. I have said elsewhere, we should all be rooting for Sam to show out in Training Camp and the Pre-Season so when Stafford's arm doesn't get better, Sam is worth a look.

Wow, Jeremy started this thread so early Matt Corral has already been in it for an hour

That was egregious. That should be an ejection right there. Honestly that could have paralyzed that dude for life.

Santoso sighting!

Damn. Remember when a 55 yarder was a Hail Mary? Now it's verging on being considered a gimme. That would have been good from 65. And right down the middle. The kicking game in the NFL is absurd right now!

I was only being slightly tongue-in-cheek. I honestly believe the way to make the sport safer is to get rid of the helmets. The padding is a double-edged sword, it makes contact less violent on the body, but paradoxically enables the players to use their bodies more violently. Take special teams as an example. You take the pads off people, you really gonna tell me two full-grown men will sprint directly at each other until they collide? But that's every kickoff and punt return with pads on.

So get rid of helmets. Problem solved.

...based on this statement alone, you should definitely not be a manager. But your "they were asking for it" attitude goes a long way to explaining why you're a sexual assault apologist.

My lingering suspicion since the Baker trade was the "QB competition" was purely to inflate Sam's value. That the splitting reps, and rotating him in with the ones, and the general act that Sam could potentially be a starting QB was to advertise him. So when a starter inevitably goes down with an injury before the season starts, it's 1-800-CALL-FITT. I also don't expect we'd get much, but if we could get a 6th, and get a portion of his salary off-loaded, it's a huge win for the Panthers. Frankly, we should all be praying from Sam to ball out during training camp and the preseason.