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We just watched the 49ers give up a bunch a draft picks for a raw athlete. I don’t want to be Vol II.

you were out if Tepper got Watson though, right?

I think that runs counter to what Rhule always said he was doing here from day 1 until his firing…..and what Tepper himself has said about what and when it’s his time be involved. Watson, the scandal and the package to get him….no way that was Rhule. That’s Tepper. Tepper said that’s when he comes in. I would say CMC, trading up for #1, and what we are presently doing….heavy Tepper involvement. Those are the type scenarios he said he would be heavily in.

Is David Tepper that dumb? Is Fitt an actually proven good GM?

Who says Reich is doing whatever he wants? We don’t know if the buck stops at Reich. Was he the final say in wanting to trade up to #1, give up next years first and his best offensive player? For a pick he would figure out? I still think the Watson pursuit was Tepper. Think there are decent odds the move up was him wanting to make a splash after his most recent trainwreck.

Yeah, he just played for years with guys in both the front office and on staff.

But that’s what TD is essentially saying. That it’s being debated and AR has a camp arguing his way

I think if we legit liked Young or Stroud and we went up knowing we were going to draft one…..then we would have already flipped over the cards and just let it be known. Which basically is what happens when you love a QB at #1. I think there is debate. And the longer we don’t know….the higher the odds the Tepper Panthers do something unpopular imo

If I am the Texans I just sit back and draft a legit top tier prospect and not piss away draft capital. Like we likely did

That’s some 3D chess NFL teams ain’t playing. We knew with pretty good certainty Cam was the dude last time we owned the #1 spot. I think we traded up not knowing exactly who we wanted for certain . All the inside scoop basically has been saying that. And there does appear to be Richardson camp.

It happens all the time though. And we traded up to the #1 overall spot. We have no one to fool. Historically, teams more often than not make it known who they are taking in that spot before the draft. That wouldn’t be abnormal for it to occur.

That argument really doesn’t work that well when you trade up to the #1 overall spot. You don’t need to fool anyone. No real purpose

TD saying it ain’t going to be Young. Or Stroud. And he dislikes who a couple front office guys got a thing for. Gotta think he talking about Morgan and company maybe?

ideally he would be in the slot but we don't have 2 guys to throw on the outside right now.

He was injured last year though. Went to IR I think half way through the season. He is a niche player. We don’t have anyone on the roster that does what he does.

I don’t think so. I think he is like Luke. Just smart.

Trevor and Luck even didn’t love football enough. If a QB lacks a concern, someone will invent it.

Yeah. Certainly looks like we moved up not being in love with anyone and would “figure it out”. which I don’t love.

Team with the #1 overall pick doesn’t have to play games though. Entire league knew we were taking Cam the year we got him.

If we traded to the 1 spot and gave up all that to get Richardson…..that seems like another poor move by this braintrust. Nothing really against Richardson the prospect…but his odds were too high of being available where we were. And if we weren’t head over heels in love with anyone why do it. We could have just drafted a guy that had decent potential at our old spot. Any of the 4 would be worth a swing to a team in QB purgatory. Why give up all that we did.

Maybe Tepper was duped. Maybe he just is a bad decision maker or lacks actual patience outside of the very specific finance world he comes from….and he is interfering in all the plans Rock Hill was go and then a no go The Charlotte property was a go and then a no go We were going to hire Rhule and build long and slow. Then we are running after Stafford, Watson and everyone with a pulse and trading away draft picks. That never jived. Still doesn’t. He brought back Rhule in 2023. Then fired him early in the season. That never really made sense. Either way you cut it. Letting him stink made the most sense once you made the mistake to bring him back. Then we traded away all the skill players you would want to have around a rookie QB….and now we look prepared to draft a QB #1 overall. And we gave up a ton to get to #1 when a top prospect likely could have been got at our initial spot. Hope for the best. Tepper just doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt IMO st this point. He has to earn the respect given how consistently bad things have gone

Yeah, but we don’t actually know a lot of that. That’s my point. It’s all politically BS talk. And you never get a clear cut answer for the most part. Who had final say? who was the final say on Icky? Horn? Trading CMC? Trading up for the #1 overall? The Jets boys? And there bad deals? when Rhule left he sure took the stance his power was overblown. Probably was from the narrative here IMO. and the biggest red flag for me. Is our actions never matched the rhetoric coming out. What was our plan? Came off like there were always 2 different ones in our front office. Build slow and win now moves. Once the Ron era ended…..we have never appeared to have a sound vision/plan IMO.

I mean do a hypothetical and say they miss on this #1…..and then do breakdown the draft picks and all moves under under Fitts watch? it won’t be pretty. I still think we should have had a complete overhaul and paired up the GM/HC. Put them on the same timeline.

Yeah, I don’t agree with what that. That’s selective blame. It’s Tepper’s team. He hires those guys. He is the constant and will be. and you are selectively laying all the blame where convenient. For example, claiming it was all Marty and then all Rhule. and whatever power Rhule did or didn’t have….clearly changed after 2022 when he should of been fired and they didn’t. Which you omit. it’s just carving out a safe space for Tepper and Fitt IMO. Who easily could just be equally as problematic as Rhule in their own way. Fitt for example can go down as worse than Marty. That’s still exists as a possibility.