mav1234

That's actually better than my impression of our success rate in the 2nd round... That stretch from 2003 to 2013... Good god.

I think picking up the option was always the plan regardless of the draft. Certainly, even if we had drafted Fields, I think Darnold was more likely to start Day 1. But I was actually totally fine with that because I like giving a rookie time to adjust and not having to feel like they MUST go out there and light it up right away. And of course if a rookie beat Darnold out in camp that says a lot about Darnold and/or the rookie, haha. As to another QB, I expect us to get one in FA. Darnold will be the presumed start over them I think, but hopefully there's still a competition. Darnold may be completely ruined from New York, or never have been that good, and I'd rather they have someone in camp to push him a little. I don't mind taking a very late round QB if there's someone they think is raw but might develop... but to your point, I would rather 2nd/3rd/4th go on building the D and OL though. I don't know enough about prospects this far down to comment on the best route there.

I liked Fields a lot but I don't assume the Panthers are totally done at QB yet. I don't think they're going to ride with just this setof QBs. But this is definitely another building year. I also would buy that Darnold with Brady could be better than Teddy was. I highly doubt he's going to be elite, which is why I wanted Fields (higher ceiling imo)... but I think we will build a competitive team and then get our QB down the line.

Someone may have already pointed this out, but I think the reason for the wait was actually a smokescreen to encourage teams into thinking we still wanted a QB, when we were very unlikely to draft one. If teams think we might go QB it raises the odds they try to move ahead of us for one,increasing the odds we get who we want. Obviously thst didn't happen but there was no reason to move on the fifth year before we needed to.

I think we made a mistake passing on Fields but if this pick shores up the D and if Darnold can be rehabilitated we'll be in a good spot. I do think Darnold is better than the Jets but pretty sure his ceiling is nowhere near Fields. Oh well.

this is nonsensical. Its about the talent that is there. The Panthers didn't believe in Fields and that is fine, but I've been watching him for a couple years and think he is significantly better than what some of his critics are saying. We'll see I guess, hopefully he can do well with the Bears.

I'm only frustrated because Fields was still available, and we absolutely need to get QB right. But, its hard to argue with Horn in the range he was drafted and CB was a huge need.

horn... wtf.

ugh. I bet we don't take Fields. Watch it be a fuging CB.

Taking a bit.. maybe negotiating a trade... but I think we should take Fields unless we're getting a second first rounder out of it

if we take a CB here I will lose my mind

if we pick Jones, I'll be fuging livid, but I readily admit I'm no talent evaluator ... Really hope we go Fields.

if Sewell AND Fields are on the board and we take Jones...

true, most of Brady's stuff is just being sore/whining, as opposed to Rodgers that is actually apparently awful.

I think Brady is rumored to be a bit of a dick. But nowhere near Rodgers level.

There's a huge difference between treating a player like a rookie and saying a player *is* a rookie. The treatment is imo to refer to the fact this is a clean start and they aren't judging him on his past failures.

That's basically what they always said... Darnold gave them flexibility so they didn't need to reach this draft, which I took to mean trade huge assets to move up.

Call me crazy but I care more about results than whether Tepper is telling his football people to draft a QB. If we end up with a franchise QB after this off-season, I really don't care what hand Tepper had in that. It's pretty clear he isn't directing every move or take. If he is for this particular case... his team, and if it works out, good.

Right, but he finishes the video with Wilson and Fields are very close, Wilson is just more win-now, and that Lance is "way below these guys." That isn't Fields-falling-to-32 as has happened in some mocks lately... Just seems crazy. Mac Jones isn't even in that conversation of top 4 guys in that video, heh. edit: I don't actually have issues with Lawrence being #1, or even Wilson moving ahead of Fields overall. It is just that Fields appears to have taken a nose dive to where he won't even be top 10 anymore, which seems a bit wild, given there apparently will still be 4 QBs taken in the top 10.

processing speed, vague work ethic questions, and "character concerns" spoken in hushed tones about some incidents at a previous school he attended? where have we heard this story before?? I'm surprised Fields is considered streakier than the other non-Lawrence QBs given he's had fewer bad games than most of the non-Lance QBs. And I would take Fields' 2019 over Lance's 2019 given competition etc anyway.

Although it is certainly possible his lawyer at the time was lying, the waiver supposedly did not have anything to do with racism and both he and Fields made public comments about that.

I'm not as excited by Darnold as I would be Lawrence/Wilson/Fields, but he gives us draft flexibility and he is a low cost, high potential option. And given the likelihood all 3 of those are gone, we have a chance to add a supremely talented guy to our team in the first now. Honestly, Darnold is a lower risk option than moving up for one of the QBs I like. Seen as a multi year rebuild, this was a smart move that doesn't force the team to reach for anyone. Specifically on the player, Darnold wasn't good in New York, but he did show flashes and he has the tools that can't be taught. In fact his biggest problems are things that can be coached. Doesn't mean HE can have them coached out... we will see.

Fwiw that was a low point in the Huddle. I do think winning will cure all woes so I'm hoping this year does so.

Homerism leading up to a draft and regular season can build hype and interest depending on how blind it is. Certainly at this point it is less annoying to read.

Fwiw, remember this is a multi year rebuild and if Darnold flops, we will ideally be in good position for a QB next year. I trust our management to make smart moves to improve the QB position. A safe management would have looked at Teddy and stood pat because he is better than the unknown in a lot of ways. But we want to win and will make moves to do so. I expect we will actually add another QB too, but it may be a vet to compete. Unless someone slides a little... Another reason I like the Darnold trade: Darnold is less likely than Teddy to keep us in QB purgatory. Unlike Teddy, he will push the ball down the field and he will try to make plays. That is likely either to mean big gains for us if he is making smart decisions, or more losses if he isn't. More losses would mean a better draft position next year.