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Your missing the point, most picks are wasted anyways on guys who don't make it in the Not For Long league. QB is the most valuable and outrageously expensive position. If you have the staff to pull it off, you can end up with better draft picks to waste. Jimmy G didn't win a SB, neither did Cap and the team is trying desperately to upgrade there again by spending 3 1st on Lance. Pats missed a lot but they got Cassel in the 7th and packaged him to KC. Jimmy G netted a higher 2nd and was part of dealing with Brady's contract. What I said was 'Always depends on the QBs. Having the choice is big if there is a QB worth it, many are not.'

Look at some of the guys still here hired by him and what they do... That was Teppers biggest mistake, not firing Hurney with Ron and now his stink still lingers.

It wasn't a good contract but Hurney was GM and in the room with Tepper and Rhule so this is what you get.

I thought the Pats traded back into the late first for Jimmy G but he was drafted late in the 2nd, my mistake. Rogers' wasn't a wasted pick, they had an old Favre and took a chance on a guy falling father than he should have. I also never said they should take one in the first every year, another posted stated a quote but I remember it as drafting a QB every year not every year in the first. What's the difference between an OG or LS in the 6th that got IRed and a QB that is a long shot. But yeah, if you have a shot at a Rodgers and can flip that then why not? Again, not top 10 picks, Rodgers went 24th. The best reason I can think of is they usually don't last past the pathetic teams picking high every year. The 2nd and after? Developing a QB as a backup and for value seems like a great hustle if you have the staff to draft and coach them. What SB has the 49ers won since the 90's? They have lost 2 in the last 10 years. They lost with Kapp and Jimmy G, one they drafted in the 2nd and the other they traded a 2nd for, so they spent 3 first to draft one this year. Steelers last 1st round QB is still their QB from 2004. Cowboys haven't been to a SB since '95 with that 1st pick in round 1. It's only a waste of resources if your team is bad at player evaluation and development, which is usually bad teams that waste resources anyways. Same difference.

No because I do other stuff as I watch the games and haven't been in person this year or last. Much more fun multitasking. I wish the football was good enough to take all of my attention but it's been years since that was a thing.

Well run teams do well run things. GB nailed it, hate it all you want but it was smart and kept them relevant. The Pats traded a couple of those guys for way more than the cost of drafting them. That's very positive. The Colts had Manning and a terrible D, they always put it on Manning to out score the other team. Ohh and the team that drafted the QBs in 1st and 2nd has the most rings. Hate it all you want, it can work on a well run team. I just hate we are not a well run team.

If you have a chance at a franchise QB, you take it. The hard part is knowing which is a franchise QB and which is a Darnold. The year we got Cam some wanted Gabbert but his film was really bad, not college bad but NFL bad. Those 2 shouldn't have even been in the same conversation. You can always sit them and play a dud for a year. No roster is perfect, it not Madden. Some are just ran a lot better and more consistent than others. Even if you have one, and there is one there you might should take him, like Rodgers. It's a great problem to have. Drafted guys bust because the scouting was bad or the team didn't put them in a good spot. Maybe a freak injury. It's hard to quantify because there are so many examples going everywhich way.

Always depends on the QBs. Having the choice is big if there is a QB worth it, many are not.

Somebody/s went after Teddy and Sam and were happy with that, that is a huge problem. Like Ron going with Gabbert over Cam bad. Now we might not have the capital to get one this offseason along with line help.

If the second year is worse than the first you have to question if there should be a third. I just can't see how this crew turns it around at this point. To many questionable personal decisions and coaching decisions. Maybe of course, I just can't see it.

LoL. He was our offense for years and we will never know what he could have looked like under better than awful an OC because our HC was so bad about managing that side of the game.

Hence why I said not even close.... Teddy and Sam leave me not looking forward to lucky #3. When the wildcat is an upgrade your QB choices are terrible.

We haven't had either since Cam left. Not close and anyone still hoping that is not true is huffing whippets.

Not if he never has a winning season. At this rate it's not a bad bet.

Darnold is grown, that's the problem with him. Brady's playcalling isn't nearly as bad as Sam's execution. Of all the variables, Darnold is the most documented as being a huge problem. Darnold isn't the rookie, Brady is.

Ron was pedestrian and his QB and MLB were able to drag him into more than mediocrity. Maybe Rhule finds something more but there is no indication yet he has more at this time. Picking 1st and getting a franchise QB changes everything. If Rhule found that he would be doing a lot better but he went in the other direction.

We went through hell to find a Cam. We still have a lot more before I belive we can find another QB at that level. It's just not easy or we wouldn't be sweating this crap stain of a streak.

I get it. Brady's upside is pretty big, not so sure about Rhule's offense abilities. I just didn't get the sense of the O that Rhule ran as being all that great but at this point maybe it's a step forward.

Sounds like Ron ball but maybe. It's just that Rhule is as inexperienced, maybe more so on that side of play. Brady has the talent, he is just vastly inexperienced to be an NFL OC. Rhule more so, maybe but I need to see that to belive it. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer but I am a bit skeptical Rhule is an upgrade. What this staff is lacking is experience, not projected ability. Giving up hope Sam is more than a liability would be a big step forward. We heard it last week and now this back to basics stuff. Well, prove it. Otherwise it's just making Brady into a scapegoat and setting Rhule up for a brutal reality check.

Even when they blocked for him he still underperformed. It's his 4th year. Different coach, team and still he is exactly the same player. Sam is the exact same as the oline, physically talented yet reliably underperforming. Same difference. Might as well blame the oline failure on Sam's inability to QB. He can't run or play in an NFL offense in his 4th year, it's not a good bet that he ever will even as a backup at this point. Sam just isn't a hill worth fighting over. I'm just hoping for fun Defense at this point the rest of the year before they are gassed.

You forgot 3. Go back to college and win because it is a lot easier. People fail big in the NFL all the time, it's easy to do. He is just raw and if he can get a lot more experience he could be a huge name. Now he just needs time and a lot more work.

Sam is a vet next year, that is BS and you know it. Sam's issue is his brain. Just not good enough. If it was the 70's he could be an amazing Bradshaw, not today. In 3 years he will be lucky to be a backup given his 1st 4 years. Noone in their right mind would rely or bet on him at this point.

I think you are missing the point. Brady is talented but inexperienced. Sam is an arm and his mind is a complete liability and has been. One of these will succeed eventually and the other is wasted picks, cap and time. I just found it funny that Simms is talking about Darnold like Simms played and performs as an analyst.

Chris Simms is as simplistic as an analyst as he was as a QB.