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I mean it sounds logical. Not only Panther fans, but if you read any other fan board who thought about getting Watson they were hesitant about their favorite team selling the future as well. It’s an unprecedented trade for a QB this young and this successful. So no one really knows or has anything to compare it to, but the price is intimidating and I don’t see an issue with anyone hesitant for those reasons. It is also logical to see it as a deal breaker. There are a plethora of things that could happen. More victims come forward. Could actually end up guilty. Could end up suspended. Or yea, absolutely nothing will come of it. But logic would say the situation is concerning. Not whether you thinks it’s true or not. The situation. The list goes on, I also don’t see any issue for hesitation for these reasons. Valid concerns all around. What’s not logical is to say none of those drafts picks will matter anyway and Watson will be completely cleared of all these charges and nothing will come of them and anyone who says otherwise has an agenda. Trying to see something that isn’t there.

Any chance people just want to wait and see if it’s legit or not?

Ehhh probably. Reactions are probably based on the timing. As I said it is suspicious. Wilson has a better relationship with his city and team. I think any high profile player who is disgruntled and has a public, dramatic beef with their franchise who all of a sudden has things like this conveniently come up at this time would get the some responses. I would not classify Wilson in that category. But there is a chance that despite the bad timing there isn’t anything related about it. Bottom line is the details and outcome are more important and are what reactions should be based on more than the timing IMO. I think it’s completely fine to say the timing is suspicious, but doesn’t mean I’ll completely disregard the situation. Just have to wait and see, and people absolutely hate that notion.

It’s quite strange. I remember when Rothlisburger caught his first charge, he was flamed everywhere as being a dumbass. And that was only when the first incident occurred where the victim bragged sleeping with him the day after it happened. Second incident had more merit but was withdrawn immediately for some reason (probably money). Maybe it’s the timing, and it is no doubt suspicious it’s just strange reading all these responses and Twitter replies, a ton of people dismissing the issue without process and ‘fully supporting Watson’ without waiting to see what happens.

Doubtful. What will happen, is most likely the same thing with Rothlisburger, a settlement with no details and Watson will continue playing. His reputation may be a bit tarnished with snarky comments but probably not on the same scale as Ben. Unless either a victim or Watson is true about really not caring about money - the details will never come out or matter in court. But in reality, that almost never happens.

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Lol typical fuging Hurney

Not according to the last 20 years of playoff contenders. Mediocre olines have made the super bowl only 3-4 times in two decades - all had a HOF qb. You need both. Who is to say the new GM and coach cannot prioritize investing in quality prospects through the draft? They certainley can’t even try if they don’t have the picks. You’re just assuming the new staff will continue run things like Hurney...and in which case nothing will help us.

that’s the problem

It’s not because we’ve had a bunch of first round oline busts.

18th ranked oline and 19th ranked defense in the league... it’s a good starting point but there are a lot more reasons the Panthers lost than just QB play

Any and all Panther fans including myself would love Watson here

Lol you know that’s not how the huddle works we could literally trade every starter we have and they’d expect playoffs next season and then when it failed they’d make excuses they didn’t give Watson a worthy team

That’s pee wee league, the real olympic level gymnastics is to articulate how the Panthers field a competitive team giving up something like 3 first/seconds and/or Brown/Chinn/Burns.

Lol So we will build an entire oline and literally an entire defense minus a slightly above average LB solely from the next few years of FA? Is that even possible? Lord help us if this is the case

It’ll be the second biggest movement of white trash rednecks of the year! (first being bicycle week at Myrtle obviously)

I am by no means a cap wizard...but it’s sounds like a good amount to rollover with the 89% rule in mind. Course this is over a 4 year period which I believe started this year. Maybe that explains TB? Then of course I think the rest of the league has to spend a certain amount. Maybe someone with more cap knowledge can confirm but this is basically how teams like the Browns were some ridiculous 80 million extra in cap space one year... Always good to take advantage of the rollover in a rebuilding time so the money is there when the players worth spending on are also there. Take all this as a grain though I’m not sure how it’s work tbh.

It’s kind of flipped. False accusers aren’t punished if no one presses charges. That makes sense because you don’t want to discourage anyone, false accusers are just casualties in that type of system. I’ll take it. But they can most certainly be sued and punished if their victim does something about it. So yea, wish that would happen more. But it’s extremely difficult if not impossible for the justice system to prosecute these kinds of cases without a compliant complainant though.

Meh I wish high profile people would stop settling stuff like this and I wish victims would stop taking/demanding a settlement. I understand there is a lot of legal and personal stuff that goes into decisions like that. But I feel issues - legal/justice system or otherwise would possibly come to light if all of a sudden things couldn’t be fixed with money. But in the end everyone just learns what the price tag was and not actually what happened or what we can learn from it in any aspect. It’s sad.

Both of these can’t be true.

It wouldn’t be so bad if they were just giving them a chance at depth...but they also seem to start and continually rotate because big men simply don’t heal.

But Hurney did not utilize option years and ‘voidable’ years. In fact his contracts were bulletproof for players. It’s why they loved him so much. It’s why TD and Olsen ran to get more money literally as soon as Gettle was fired lol. It’s why R Kalil was able to sucker Hurney for a two year extension yet was somehow injured less than halfway through, retired, yet miraculously was able to recover for a big paycheck from the Jets where he...yea was all of a sudden injured again. Probably took notes from Matt. It’s probably why Weatherly didn’t give a poo when he was signed. It was basically free money. Delomme was signed after an injury that is undefeated in destroying athletes’ careers. Why? Lots of other examples. Hell I’m thinking Rhule had the idea of TBs opt out option thank god. Nah Loomis is far better than Hurney. Hell I think he is an NBA GM too (not sure) lol. Bottom line, Hurney might as well have been a players agent, he worked for them, Loomis works for the franchise(s). Pretty sure the Saints will cut Tyson next year and not lose anything but just gain cap this year.

Pretty sure this guy is Hurney’s evil opposite twin just amazing I mean does the dollar amount even matter when it’s all ‘voidable’ lol

Hard to say with a new GM With Hurney, you know it was a move dooming us for the next several years Can we now evaluate things outside of being an NC native and loving your mother? I think most of us have PTSD from Hurney so have to let that go and see what this FO can do

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