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It’s not. The Saints are the best team in the NFCS thanks to a superior FO and it’s not close. But Carr is on the downside of his career and so it will be short lived. Of course we aren’t trying to lose now but we are building for being the team after that.

The ceiling is 8. Slightly better than last year but considering we’ve averaged like barley 6 wins in the past half decade - people need to realize this IS optimistic. It’s the reason behind 8 wins that’s what should be looked at. Is it a learning curve as it should be? Or more bullshit from this franchise looking like they’ll never learn. People say we are improved from last year because we have a better team, but don’t account for the learning curve. It’s a casual fan take, or patience wearing thin. But it overlooks the facts, how football/team building general works in NFL history. Because even 6 wins due to the curve will make me happy. I just want a bright future and as I’ve said the record means very little this year.

No he isn’t. No worthwhile GM signs up to just so the paperwork for a college coach and in general has more than one team looking at them. Fit is simply gets the players his coach wants which is more fine if you have a proven coach. But how many people want to work for Tepper? He’s not a football guy. Half his round table includes his wife and a customer relations person. This board is full of people optimistic every year and the Panthers can do no wrong. And just pointing this out makes you a doom and gloomer, sometimes a fake fan. The irony is these overly optimistic posters all disappear come the beginning/mid October. They come in with high expectations because their football experience is three hours on Sunday but only if the Panthers are winning. But to those who follow the NFL in general for years know this team is still building and have realistic expectations. But we aren’t real fans because we say the Panthers aren’t going to the playoffs this year. We also know Fit should been canned with Rhule, Hurney with Rivera. and Tepper is a god awful owner that won’t find success until luck strikes or he hires help. The best thing about this year imo are our assistant and coordinator coaches. They have the talent to eventually be a good HC. Like McDermott. I don’t believe Reich is all that great but I’m willing to give it time.

war and peace the sequel

Yep. Already been saying this. People don’t want to hear it but it’s true. Young needs experience and there are more holes to fill and building needed. Care is a good QB. Maybe not SB caliber but he’ll be better than Young for a bit. Saints will have the next couple of years and then it will either be Falcons or Panther time depending on who does it right. They have hell of a nice cap room to work with. We shall see.

indeed there is

That not the trend, the trend is an inept front office. There are plenty of modern day teams that understand depth and talent evaluation (KC, Eagles, Patriots). Their next man up is a slight drop off and when they want $ they either give it to them and trade the first guy, trade them, or just flat out cut them because they’ll just find another guy that can fill in with little drop off. There is a reason the Panthers have been the worst team in the league aside from a couple outlier teams that never win anything and it’s from the top. Tepper sure as poo isn’t changing that so we really need to just hope lightning strikes and everyone stays perfectly healthy to win anything. There are other teams like this as well. You seen them do well until just a single player gets hurt and they look like hot trash.

Lol playoffs for a rookie qb and first year coach. Man I thought the embarrassing, moronic, knee jerk casual fan fire everyone threads would come after our first couple losses…looks like I was sadly mistaken.

was about to start a same sentiment type post, except I believe this will be a mediocre season. Next season might as well. After that it better be a winning season or Tepper needs to hire help (though he should’ve done that this year). we are building a team of top 10 picks ala the Browns…and it’s getting sad. starting to be the place players/top talent come to die. I hope Young can turn it all around. On the plus side mediocre is the bottom with these coaches. Problem is if one shines they may be plucked. Also I have more faith in the assistants than Reich. I know he gets a lot of love on here but his past is riddled with god awful decisions. anyways back to point, people are drastically overreacting over a preseason game. Especially with young…so like four series? Not even a full preseason game. Looks like this place is set up quite nicely for knee jerk threads from the same casual fans claiming he’s the next manning when we lose games and he makes mistakes which he will.

you literally can’t tell anything from one preseason game but ok.

good lord there is no conspiracy, the panthers played like trash, but we’re a good enough team to keep it close. they made huge mistakes all game. yea the officiating sucked but do you guys watch any NFL at all outside the Panthers? Officiating is always horrendous. not sure why we need refs tbh

Decent move. This front/LB is weak. So are the WRs. But that’s it…build those the next year and should be in deep playoffs year 2/3 given Young is at least average or better.

Things have not worked out for the panthers who continued on their dysfunctional circus and losing team. Will things turn around? We will see but let’s not be delusional. Reddick wanted to win, compete, and saw a dumpster fire like Rhule coming a mile away.

You didn’t hear about it because millions of dollars for several nondisclosures work. Aka money talks and rich get off. Your comment is literally live proof of that. I encourage you to think for yourself.

I mean when you see how this place defends JR who should also be in jail…don’t see how it’s much different.

yet another effect of Tepper’s clown show …we really don’t know what young players are properly developing, if they even can think about it - legit NFL coaches really haven’t even evaluated, let alone actually helped them yet dear god I hope 5-6 years of losing is the end of the learning curve

Savannah definitely isn’t perfect. Even on the coast I’m not a fan of their beaches. I would rather just drive to the gulf. But it is still affordable although that is changing. And that’s my #1 must haves. My second is driving distance (4-5 hours) to the gulf and Charlotte. Not too many cities fit that criteria. Wilmington and Huntsville, AL were other choices. Huntsville fell through for me and Wilmington is a bit less affordable than Savannah. Other choices were Birmingham, Jacksonville (also becoming less affordable), Pensacola, Tallahassee, crap towns in Louisiana, Atlanta (tired of wasting life on traffic as my job requires me to drive around), Augusta, Montgomery, Houston, Fayetteville AK. And I was looking into KY and VA. Ultimately I felt out of those Savannah was a top choice. Slim Pickens. Jacksonville and Wilmington were really the only choices out of that list for me.

100%. My home was 630k here for 2000 square feet, .20 acre. I’m eyeballing a 320k house in Savannah 500 more square feet but over 1.5 acres of a well maintained wooded lot. Wilmington came in a very close second for me. It’s a bit more pricey than Savannah (except downtown) but doable. Only reason I didn’t is Savannah is a bit closer to my vacation spots in the gulf but equal distance to Charlotte. Still from what I’ve seen both are great areas to settle down. Austin was another choice they could’ve sent me to and I was like nahhh I’m good lol. Bring me back home where I can afford to live.

Yep. Count me in with you guys. In Salt Lake now but in two weeks I am moving to Savannah GA purely for the costs and being a coast city. Strong economy here and security but unless you’re specifically tech, can’t make it work here. And even that bloated field is going to crumble soon. Either way a nice home in GA will run $350k and that same house here is 750k and for what?

Don’t forget we are a pathetic franchise. 5 years average of <6 wins? In a no sports city with few attractions to the general player demographic… It’s like when you can work at Target but General Dollar be callin. You’re not going without $.

Well, the thing you have to remember is Tepper is an idiot.

So four times in how many years? 30? 40? Longer? All I am saying is playoffs, deep even, seem to be an expectation for some on this forum and the knee jerk threads are annoying. Some of the best QBs of all time, actually most, had garbage first years. And even great HCs had crap first years as well…even if it was just being a HC for a new team.

anyone know how many times a rookie QB and first year HC went to the playoffs? please temper expectations we don’t need fire Reich and Young is a bust hot take threads at any point this year

That’s a blanket statement and points toward an inept front/scouting department not a contract/value problem. Winning franchises have much better numbers. If as a franchise, you’re on the lower % part of whatever makes up that stat, I feel like you’re doomed anyways. Not sure how many winning franchises continually fail at the draft. In other words if you can’t be competent enough to replace Burns like production with four first round picks, your team/franchise probably resembles something like the Browns.

Sounds a lot like AE was told how it was but wanted it sugar coated, not the other way around like he said. He was drafted to sell tickets. So was Will Grier (taken over Crosby). Several other examples too. Hurney absolutely loved the local heroes and JR saw $ per usual. Sometimes I wonder where y’all work at…these family atmospheres that pay you nicely no matter the job you do, always giving you the benefit of the doubt. I’ve never had that in my life and I’ve come to appreciate the more genuine comments and people because of it, even if it lacked tack. No one is void of struggle from loss in this world. Sounds to me like AE simply wasn't good enough.