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as much as I’d love Payton and give a first for him two firsts is just too much. but I would trade Burns and 20 mil in cap space for Payton

Baldwin?

We know Tepper is inept (Rhule). We know he is a bad owner (worst stretch in 30 years of history). We know he will make idiotic decisions or try (Watson). We know he refuses any help that will not coddle his ego (including his wife in decisions). We know he has absolutely no clue how this works (trying to interview GMs and then denied and laughed at because he already had one). We know wants money over player safety or respect (turf). We know he is a slimy snake (obvious hedge fund, but rock hill). You’d have to be extremely naive to learn literally anything about this move.

some people think they’re taking some moral high ground due to bounty gate yet watch/support the NFL in general which is irony’s definition according to Webster

These are just sneak peaks. The episode are the wonderful 5 win seasons he graces us with. And yea it’s getting old.

y’all kill me. Why is this even relevant to a bottom dwelling team? We are just tying to have a winning season and god forbid back to back winning season. Payton could come here and rebuild the roster, culture, go to the playoffs a few times in a five year contract and I’d consider it a success. Some of you still think we are the verge team despite have the worst record in the entire nfl over the last half decade lol obviously a Super Bowl is the ultimate goal but there just because a coach is promoted doesn’t mean they’ll make it either

But Rhule, no problem. -Tepper It’s PR talk, only idiots believe.

It would cost less to trade with the bears and draft a QB. And it wouldn’t kill a team’s cap, already in cap hell. I’d rather take that shot. Trading for and then signing away the future to Lamar and not being able to build around him would be incredibly stupid.

for the same exact reason this would be so fuging awful on our roads/highways today

I mean I kind of get why you’re saying but Panthers of the AFC? Sometimes I don’t think fans understand just how delusional they can be and god awful this franchise is under Tepper, like over the past five years, we are top 3 worst NFL records. The Chargers have 43 wins in that period, three winning seasons and two playoff appearances while the Panthers have 29 wins and zero winning seasons and zero appearances lol. Teams comparable to the Panthers are literally the Jets and the Jaguars, as much as people like to make fun of them. There is only a few teams below this franchise.

Wills will do anything Tepper tells him to, to become the HC. And Tepper loves that fact. Wilks has no other options, no one else is interviewing him - which should be an obvious red flag for anyone supporting him staying as the HC btw.

Meh hard to say. People need to realize, if they haven’t already, Tepper is a god damn idiot. He has tried to interview for a GM when Hurney was already the GM. That’s against the rules and he got denied (and laughed at). He also let Hurney help him hire the future. He also had a small time college coach have input on hiring the GM (lmao). He could very well be hiring the entire staff himself and be neutering the new HC. And common sense says only poor options would allow that. So maybe Wilks. Also makes sense why Harbaugh was a quick no. Tepper strikes me as the type to go 180 to the other extreme after being swindled (by Rhule) like an idiot, Watson after Cam has this feel. And this would too after giving Rhule full control, and now no one gets it. Hell this could have been his wife’s idea. Or maybe his new ‘smarter than the rest of the NFL’ revelation. Yes this is all just thoughts a speculation. But you have to bring your theories to insanely stupid levels to understand Tepper. You don’t just stumble into being the founder of the worst season stretch in a 30 year history of a franchise, while actually trying, in your first shot, without having some really bad ideas. His learning curve is a big one, and will take quite a while before he gets it right. Buckle up. He’s already shown to completely ignore how things are done and NFL history, but ironically, will end up there anyways when he finally figures out what everyone else already knows.

Better question, for those that have any faith at all please provide examples based on evidence as to why.

We don’t even have a GM yet. Or really even an owner. Despite the positions not being vacant.

No, it’s stupid. We are a 5 win team in cap hell. Our blueprint to success is through the draft, no bloated QB contracts. Not sure why this is so hard to accept, this isn’t the Bucs or Rams…the team is not a QB away from a SB for financial and personnel reasons.

Meh. He’s alright. It’s not a priority to replace or anything. The clutch kicks are most important though. Couple more of those misses and need to start looking again.

That’s because he’s doing it all ass backwards yet again for some reason. Consultants find a GM and that GM finds the coach. That’s how it’s done and most NFL teams are built. Fitt has zero experience and is not qualified nor should he be a GM. I said we will know if Tep still hasn’t learned if Fitt is still here seasons end and what do you know. You literally have a room full of people who have zero relevant football decision making experience calling the shots. It’s comical. It’s like when he tried to interview GMs but couldn’t because he already had one, Tepper is a fuging idiot. He doesn’t know how this works or the rules, anymore than posters here. It’s sad. For those paying close attention, this is a toy to Tepper. He wants to leisurely figure it out himself and wants the credit for doing so. How long that takes or whether he actually can do it or not is completely irrelevant. fug him.

Would much rather give draft capital and a QB for five years on the cheap than pay a big contract for a QB. That’s the ideal blue print. Generally, that big contract/vet QB blueprint option #2 isn’t going to work on an already cap crippled, perennial 5-win team.

Eh. I see it another way. In reality this magnifies this franchise’s biggest issues for years, awful cap management/contracts and poorly utilizing a modern player causing him to be more injury prone, which both are loosely related to cringe dinosaur coaching hires and losing seasons with a crippled cap (obviously). But I get it, we need to self preserve so yea, this was a win for us I guess. For the record, I would’ve taken this trade too. But I’m not going to ignore the bigger picture/issue of what is going on.

No. No bonus and it means nothing. Hurney…that u?

Herbert…should’ve offered more for him. Next thread up, Panthers haven’t traded to draft a QB since Cam left and how that has worked so far. Seriously. We know a worthwhile FA isn’t coming here. We also know this team won’t tank properly. Soooooo what do you propose exactly? Keep sifting through trash? I said the day Tepper took over and Cam left this franchise won’t turn around until it started taking chances at DRAFTING a QB and I stand by it. I’d rather take the chance.

Sorry don’t believe it. This is just a toy for Tepper. If he truly cared he’d hire consultants. He be more self aware. He isn’t qualified. And honestly he doesn’t care. If we do well he wants to be the reason and wants the credit. Could take ten years, could be never - that fact isn’t important to him and that’s the problem.

I agree and to be clear when I say consultants, I mean they should help with a GM hire more so than a coach. Fitt isn’t the answer. We need a GM.

honestly we should just be trading and rolling over every superstar and draft pick for the future so we will own the entire first round in years 2048 and 2049 when Tepper is finally gone

This doesn’t really make sense. Business, contracts, and football are all not only very broad subjects but very different and a specialist at one isn’t at the other. To that point, I highly doubt she knows more about hiring a HC than a lot of people, Tepper included. Just because they’re owners doesn’t mean poo. Overall there is zero evidence the people making the decisions are able to made good ones, in fact, quite the contrary. However, there ARE specialists in making these kind of decisions. JR hired consultants that led to a hire that led to a Super Bowl. However when an owner who has already solidified himself with the worst results a company has seen in 30 years says fug those consultants, I’ll still make these decisions and now include my wife…well it’s pretty clear to any average person this is just some dumb poo.