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I used to know a dude who loved getting wings on the weekend, almost every football Sunday. Friends for 22 years. He dropped dead at 43 from a heart attack. How you guys stuff that down your gullet I’ll never understand.

Lol that’s fake stress. he has enough money to take care of his family for several generation.

Not only did Rhule hire Fitt, Fitt was willing to come to a team where a Baylor college coach was CEO and he basically just signed off on things. You guys realize that isn’t how things work and not in a million years would any respectable GM come into a situation where a small college coach is the ‘CEO’ right? Honestly, it’s a worse story than hiring a journalist to be your GM.

I mean it’s a ‘GM’ Rhule hired. What do people expect. I am remaining optimistic about this franchises ass backward ways and will cheer on Reich, but damn I would’ve loved a new GM.

Getting a QB in the draft round 1 is the only thing that can excite me about the season. Reich needs a young QB to mold similar to Wentz (but legit) in order to have success. No more sloppy second QBs, time to grab the guy. Really hard to believe there isn’t a franchise QB in this draft…dare I say even more than one.

GMs hire coaches not the owner, that’s his mistake. And no legit GM is going to work for (ass backwards) or make a college HC ‘CEO’, yet…that is what happened. Well if you consider Fitt legit. Signs say otherwise. Finally, that much power isn’t the problem. All star coaches (Payton, Belicheck, Harbaugh) will likely require it to some extent. The problem is giving it to a Baylor college coach with zero experience. No one does that. I really hope he sees the true issue. It’s great Tepper is learning but unfortunately is learning what everyone already knows. I really wish he’d show some humility and surround himself with legit football people/council that will not only challenge him but tell him he’s wrong and he will allow it. Fitt won’t do it (obviously) and Rhule didn’t know his ass from his face. Then there is Hurney. This has been a big issue.

All I know is he needs a QB. He isn’t going to succeed without one, and a good one. He lost the team and players quit on him. His Colts team was last in points by any team I believe. I also don’t want him calling plays. Get him a good OC on the same page. That didn’t help him either. I’m not a fan of the hire to be honest but I will feel much better if he is able to go up and get the QB he wants.

Good lord lol there is no reason for owners to even have success…you guys will literally swallow whatever this franchise does can we just wait on calling Reich a SB winning coach until it actually happens? Right now this is all words and everyone was just as excited for Rhule’s presser things aren't looking good in Charlotte until things are looking good in Charlotte

Lol 95% of what I just posted isn’t a take it’s an observation and is literally reality.

Tepper looked back at his awful history and then decided he was still qualified to call the shots. If he truly wasn’t happy with the results he would have fired Fit, and hired consults to get a GM in there that would have in turn hired a coach like every other team does. But that would’ve taken some humility. Pretty clear he thinks he is special, knows better than anyone, and is a path maker. This team is just a toy to him that only he can figure out. Instead, he’s clinging on to a GM Rhule hired and still calling the shots as if he knows what he is doing. He doesn’t get props wasting his own money (which is fan money too btw).

Personally, I like Stroud. I think Young is better for Reich. I’ll be happy with either though.

It’s not hatred, it’s the results. I’d encourage you to care more about them when forming your perspective and understand how they have come about.

These are competitively natured guys. Money is not everything and it will not buy everything. We have seen this time and time again with players and coaches during Tepper’s tenure. Countless players (with options) would never fathom going to the Browns in the past and this is no different - You can’t be a dysfunctional, losing franchise and just expect to pay for wins/success. That mentality has been a big part of the issue all along.

There is absolutely zero theory or equation that predicts incompetence. It’s random. Look, I love some evidence. Just some. I’m willing to listen. Do you guys have say the top 30-40 bad calls in high stake games in recent times that you can reasonable formulate (with numbers/stats) in even just a logical projection as to how the NFL benefitted in forming a conspiracy to make it play out? Because otherwise, like ever other fanbase, bad calls are rigged. Everyone thinks it. Look at their forums. If it was so glaring as some of you say, should be easy to prove. If it were up to me there’s be refs in a booth watching replays calling plays, but only a couple. Chip in the ball and helmets and a laser grid field. Maybe in the future. For now we still have 70 year olds calling the shots.

serious question how would you tell the difference between outdated old men genuinely doing a shitty job and ‘conspiring/meeting together ‘rigging’ the game with zero proof? all fans think then and their team is special and if luck doesn’t go their way things are rigged. It’s not unique in reality, the concept of primarily old men running around trying to spot things, in a day an age where we have laser and computer chips, is more likely and logically the culprit

Fitterer is not a GM and should not have be carried over or hired in the first place. High value coaches and players won’t play for Tepper and Rhule’s GM (lol) and those interviews are likely a disaster behind closed doors. This franchise will never see success until Tepper takes his hands off, and hires help to put the right GM in place that will be able to bring in a winning coach. Basically the blueprint for most successful teams since like forever. The Panthers and Tepper are a laughing stock trying to find a cheat code, trading valuable future assets and money, at QB, and consistently displaying how Tepper has zero clue evident by not following rules etc. There is a reason why coaches/players in demand do not come here and we are always left with personnel with little options. Some fans side with Tepper and say this is being smart, path makers, and finding a diamond. I say it’s ineptness, and evidence in lies in results.

we already have those issues minus the first round pick lol

Because he isn’t a real GM just like Rhule isn’t a real NFL coach. And when he is fired along with Reich and his bottom dwelling coaches at the bottom of his list with no options in three years with zero results, Fit will also be gone. And then some of you will be gasping despite being told right now, just like before, it’ll happen.

Tepper has created a near impossible scenario for coaches. No one wants to be hired by his wife and play for Rhule’s GM lmao not to mention a losing, bottom dwelling franchise with no QB and an owner that has shown he doesn’t have the first clue as to how things work.

Y’all don’t get it. This franchise CAN’T. No one wants to come here. From players to coaches. Just like last year. Just like I said would happen and got shitted on. This is ALL a result of becoming the new Browns, and engrained losing culture. I have never seen so many players and coaches refuse to play for this franchise than with dumbass Tepper.

This years’ swap, both seconds and next years’ first and possibly second - minimum. Which I’d be in favor for. If it’s 2025’s first as well, I’d be hesitant but anything less, pull the trigger. If the scouts are all in agreement, get it done. Could also add a player in to keep from touching the 2025 pick, which again I’d be in favor for. I didn’t always think this way but I firmly believe high value coaches and players cringe seeing Tepper, his wife, and Rhule’s hired GM. Clearly this team is going no where without trading some value for someone, no worthwhile FA is coming here. It needs to be correct and calculated and I would prefer it be in the draft.

Even so the point remains he can’t just hire him. He has to interview other people, and legally, a minority. And yet people get mad that these interviews are not sincere. Get mad at an owner for already knowing who he wants. It doesn’t make sense. That’s the rule. Be mad at that. People would still be mad unless he hired a minority, then none of this would be a story. That’s the premise though. That’s the problem that’s being perpetuated. You cannot tell a person you already know you are going to hire and it isn’t them but you need to interview them anyways as you suggested. That is illegal even outside the NFL. And being of another race too? poo. Wilks’ lawyers would have a field day with that.

Up front with Wilks? And say what? We already know who we want but due to NFL rules we need to interview a minority. Say that to a dude already suing a team? Yea sounds real smart. The NFL needs to get rid of the dumb rule it causes more harm than good, and they also need to take the blame/lawsuits for the idiocy, not teams conducting meaningless interviews just because they’re required. The funny thing is I bet you all I own Tepper may of knew who he wanted but had no clue it would turn into this dumb poo fest because it truly wasn’t based on malice or racism, and he was caught off guard. The man who hired his wife. Had/has the first transgender cheerleader. Who had Reid on the team. That’s the laughable bullshit world we live in today. People are fuging dumb. And this is coming from probably the most vocal Tepper hater on this board. If this gave me more ammo, I’d be all about it. But there simply isn’t anything here.

he means that Reich was known to be the HC and who Tep wanted to hire all along but because he cannot just flat out hire who he wanted to and needed to jump through hoops and satisfy anti racist rules that heals people of racism, and did jump through those hoops but was not sincere about it and cured of his racist ways by seeing his error in wanting Reich and hiring Wilks, he is clearly a racist and needs to be sued

Lol my oh my has Tepper and Rhule’s dumbassery rubbed off on fans…thinking there is so sort of cheat code and we just need to make the right trade lmao if we wanted fields we should’ve drafted him but now you want to add two seconds to what we would’ve given? What in the blood hell NO. draft a qb already, that is the best way forward