frankw

If Bryce Young can't compete with this OL as a starting QB it's never going to happen.

That wasn't even your post genius. To be honest with you I have no need to converse with you since you have revealed yourself to be someone who lowkey despises the only MVP of this franchise. Be gone.

You know these threads are archived right? No one needs to save posts. I did not look up that thread or link that thread someone else did. I only quoted it out of amusement at how inept we are as a franchise and how we as fans rationalize that ineptitude even when it's something as glaringly dicey as drafting a player with a major injury. You're getting mad at the wrong person regardless. Maybe direct this energy at our current GM who is the former right hand man of the worst GM of any team in recent memory

Famous last words.

Even Kyle fuging Allen won when the pressure was on. We're still waiting to see Bryce Young not play like utter dogshit in the season opener.

Playing better and winning when the pressure is completely off is not a first overall pick.

I mean at this point he already told us all what time it is. Following his disastrous rookie season which was one of the 3 or 4 worst all time in terms of yards per pass he bluntly stated his first goal was to do as little as possible or shop for clothes or stream Netflix. The complete opposite of a dawg.

Hell of a play by Jaycee. Very unfortunate the offense did not adequately reward him for his efforts.

He's been blown out by the Jaguars twice now. And the other time they were starting their backup.

Wild. That's a guy you take a flier on in the mid to late rounds. Not someone you trade up to draft first overall to carry your franchise.

Yikes overload.

Just for reference regarding the Legette pick. Bryce Young's father publicly lobbied for XL to be the pick for his son.

You aren't going to make any headway. The image attached with that post amuses me considering there isn’t a player or coach that hasn't or won't get thrown under a burning bus to deflect blame from #9. If the kid was showing flashes of brilliance throughout his 31 career games that would be one thing but the majority of them are either historically awful or mid.

High standards for everyone but the #1 pick you traded up to draft. Is it any wonder this team continues to flounder?

The defense has been a problem we all know this. Evero and the talent level have held us back no doubt. But it is also worth questioning what effect the QB play or lack thereof is having on that side of the ball. And it is absolutely legitimate to consider that not only them being on the field more but watching the QB and the offense waste drive after drive has an effect on morale if the unit is already not ideal.

I don't think we need to argue over the existence of the drops. Look at the film. Instead of arguing about was this a drop or was that a drop we should be looking at the throws from Bryce and recognizing the fact that there are so many 50/50 balls and passes that receivers have to make physical adjustments to even attempt to haul in. You cannot just put everything on the receiver at all times. For the WR to have success the QB has to be able to more often than not put them in a position to succeed. And we also have to be able to acknowledge when the QB is putting the receiver in jeopardy and that did happen Sunday particularly with Renfrow. I mean even a guy like TMac with his catch radius has faced a challenge hauling in passes from Young. And we're pretty hyped about him. Legette and Sanders I will say have underwhelmed. That's something the head coach needs to sort out. But we still have a really good RB room and we have the highest paid OL for 2025 by a significant margin. Nobody here even necessarily expected Bryce and the team to win many games. They just expected to see competency and something really anything to build on going forward. What we did not want to see was multiple steps back again. And with the investments that have been made there's really no excuse.

Okay so he and we are acknowledging that Bryce is still making mistakes and not recognizing basic coverages in his third season. So what does he do to prepare? Remember before the draft the entire hype around him revolved around not only his ability to improvise when the play breaks down on the field but his dedication to preparation off the field in the film room. So if all of this is happening and his footwork is still anywhere between mediocre and horrific in any given play what is he doing in the offseason and in between games? This and his elite processing was supposed to be his key selling point. Then leadership was the sprinkle on top and let's be honest that's lacking at best too. So what is it that Bryce Young excels at in any phase of the game right now?....

Man that's a sobering parallel but you are right. It would be like 3 years of Carr but people still trying to convince themselves he's the franchise QB while talking down to others as if they are not real fans for refusing to believe so. Which is literally insane but that's where we're at unfortunately. Well at this point all we can do is see what happens over the next few weeks. But if our head coach and our QB show up with the same old same old and the low energy most of the rest of the team is going to follow that and fold just like they did in Jacksonville.

Been through Cam and Jake. While both were flawed both weathered their share of scathing criticism and less than ideal circumstances and still flashed franchise QB level play more often than not. This is not that. Comparing this to either of our two best long term QB's in franchise history is frankly disgusting.

I mean the guy is the face of the franchise he could at least make an attempt to set an example for the other guys. And our previous GM did directly address this and stated they would get Bryce on a nutrition program and get him in the gym.

Furthermore it needs to be explicitly stated that if we are going to expect perfection from every single pass catcher on this roster at all times then why are we not also asking why for three years in a row now Bryce Young one of the smallest lightest starting QB's in the league begins the regular season looking exactly the same as if he has made absolutely no attempt to even enter the weight room.

Drops are also going to inevitably happen in any offense on any given gameday. I don't know when or where specifically this expectation changed for Bryce Young but as a #1 overall pick you are supposed to flash something anything even in adverse circumstances. But he is not making matters any better with his lack of arm talent. It is on tape. Defenses see this tape too. They do not respect his arm. Just watch the games.

More than generous. It's detached from reality. Which is what pretty much all each of these takes in defense of him have become. Fully detached from reality.