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I hope we get one more drive from Bryce. We need some momentum with our first team, even if the Giants start benching guys. Let's figure out some rhythm out there. Positives - Boze, Mingo, Luvu, Chinn

Icky with a mental hiccup.

Brown has like 2 and Chubba has 6 right up the gut. They seem intent on reviewing those two and the OLs run ability. You know what you get with Hayden, Chark and Thielen. They've given Mingo shots. Good redzone chance to test out Tremble or Sullivan.

You typically are looking at outside corner pairings when referring to duos/tandems. I view Horn/Jackson as a top-16 duo but I’m also accounting for availability. As a DB unit, we’re definitely one of the most interesting with Bell, Woods, Chinn, Horn, Jackson and Rowe. Far from the best though. Re: Chinn talk…I believe what we’re going to see is pretty clear from the Evero last year and our personnel. We’re going to see a 3-3-5 Penny Front. It’s different from Snow bc there’s no silly undisguised blitzing and Evero isn’t going to pin Chinn deep 30% of the time. Shaq is the offball LB, Luvu is onball outside (he thrives in this and has since college, he’s basically a hybrid EDGE at times), Burns standing strong side, 3 down linemen. Chinn fits perfectly in the big nickel role more tightly aligned with Shaq. Jackson and Horn outside CBs, Bell/Woods 2 high safeties. That’s a personnel grouping I foresee a ton.

It's pretty annoying we kept him around from a fan's perspective--stemming not only from the lack of production, but his off the field issue and that 2022 contract as well (now restructured, but still..) Sure, he became a better blocker and has always sounded like a good practice dude per reports, but his raw athleticism never translated to Sundays. You have to show something, at some point. Who knows ha, I have no expectations for him.

Funny note -- Hurst & Ian came out of the same draft class. One we treat as this established vet that we brought in and another we're somehow still thinking may bloom any day now. This will be Ian's 6th year and is on his second contract. He's honestly lucky to be here at this point. I'd personally prefer to see what strides Tremble makes. He's super young (the age of a lot of rookies this year). Critical year developmentally for him. TEs are known to take time (2-3 years), but not 6... Probably the last year here for Thomas unless he somehow has some completely out of nowhere breakout.

Haynes is the one good piece we have after Burns rotationally. Problem is that he doesn't compliment Burns to be on the field at the same time with him, Shaq & Luvu. He's backup/rotation, down dependent. This tells me YGM isn't showing enough as an edge setter and DJJ hasn't shown much either. It's mildly annoying but we've all seen this hole from a long ways away. Good to have a dude like Houston. He comes in, and helps to get a decent cream rising from YGM, DJJ, & Leota developmentally. We'll see. Plenty of ways to go until week 1.

Given that’s what Boze had to do for 99% of the the time for our previous QBs, it’s probably a breath of fresh air. Pre-snap ability is huge. Bryce and Haener were the only two coming out that really had the readability seem second nature to them. Everything I see and hear makes me very confident we found a legit QB.

2 weeks to training camp and some legit updates begin.

We've got some very specific question marks (outside CB depth, edge setter, & unproven WRs), but it's a really well rounded squad. Defense could pop. Offensively, there's a lot of unknowns but you've got the line talent, good enough receivers, and a fresh #1 overall pick behind center. There's just so much new, it's difficult for anyone to project. I'm all for proving people wrong.

This was awesome. Shows you they never felt like they were reaching. For DJ—they went to get a very specific need in our scheme & our board metrics had the 93->80 trade as a +22 These guys had specific targets they really felt that conviction with. Just loved seeing the Zavala and Jammie bits as well. RB and an outside sized CB would’ve been nice but we filled needs and got legit talent with each pick. Good stuff

Might as well ping NO as: Derek Carr Kendre Miller Chris Olave Rashid Shaheed Foster Moreau *Thomas & Kamara are certified tossups/likely to be MIA more than available.

I agree w/Hubbard, I'm indifferent to Chubba. He had nice moments last year but he's not a cemented asset moving forward. Brady may end up working out best as our new Hang'man instead of a long term LG. Lots of misses these past 4 years. Patriots are experiencing the same thing right now. Bill B hasn't been drafting well and they haven't managed to build a good enough team post-Brady. Starting to really slip.

With Pride & Nixon already gone, YGM, Taylor, STO, Deonte not panning out, the Rhule 2020-21 drafts are looking downright bad. 2022 had more Scott involvement--Smith, Barno, & Mays need to step up but have a bit more leash. 2020 is going to be just Chinn & Brown as hits if YGM doesn't make something happen. The 2021 class is the one that's bubble-types are hitting a make or break season. TMJ, Tremble, Hubbard, Taylor, Deonte, Shi. Time to show us what they've got. 11 picks in that draft, I'd like to think we found more than just Jaycee, Brady C & Hubbard (maybe). Just a huge year coming up for Tremble & Marshall. It's funny, in addition to the draft class, we also have #9 overall (Henderson), #42 (Shenault) from 2020. We've got 2 first and 3 second rounders from the 2020 draft on this team.

Here was the TB touchdown that I had remembered; had some nice moments to close the season. Earlier in the year--

For the most part, it's make or break time, but luckily they're still young. Younger than most rookies.

That's the Fray, not Ed Sheeran

Panthers minicamp thread about...the Titans and Will Levis. Nice.

Gotta say, I really liked what I heard in DJJ's interview today. Both him and Mingo seem like really hard-nosed/tough but smart & students of the game type guys. Maybe he's got some goods to provide. https://www.panthers.com/video/dj-johnson-i-m-here-to-keep-improving

I’m somewhat going out on a limb but I just think Tremble has made an impact nearly every time we ask him to grab the ball. Even if he’s not TE1 in a big capacity for the offense, I think he’s a perfect guy to have here and could very well grow into an all-around type. Especially being a TE, they notoriously take time to develop. He’s basically a rookie with experience. A mid-3rd rounder at that. He’s a guy I’m willing to back even though it seems many are lukewarm on him. He had a fantastic route and TD against TB near the close of the year. He just seems to make stuff happen.

Well, agree to disagree. I know what I'm trying to say but to each their own if your don't share optimism about either. All good. He will remain at most TE2. And in that capacity, likely top out at a Trey Burton type level. But I think he can elevate a bit more past a Burton type.

I'm really not. I'm also not saying he's going to have some superstar year either. There's simply some nice reasons to be optimistic about him. He's still going to have a high percentage plays with blocking assignments. I'm also specifically explaining how he's more of a blocking TE role that has the capacity to become a strong receiving threat. Never once extrapolated for a full season or said TE1s don't block. I'm simply stretching out his two seasons in context for modest hype, not saying he's coming up on some 800/7TD year.

One thing is for sure, I really hope Bryce start off hot and we take care of NO week 2 on national TV. Dalton knows that defense and can no doubt get him primed for that game.

Let's also not forget Tremble's first 3 touches as a Panther: -30 yard reception to set up a TD -A Goal Line Trickery Rushing TD -A Receiving TD He makes plus+ plays when he's given the ball.

Thanks. I just think these are two Rhule-era picks in particular that cannot be written off. Others can, see: Yetur. Tremble was a high selection for a TE and they take time unless they're an aberration. Add in that he can block & catch just fine, and is now seasoned, I think he has a HUGE opportunity with us not drafting one from this class. Fitterer even called him out specifically in a post-draft presser that they were fine not drafting a TE due to the confidence they have in Tremble. I like to hear that, especially considering we have a new coaching staff in house and that determination no doubt came through their assessment as well as Scott's.