Mr Mojo Risin

Yea it's funny to me people want to put all the offenses issues on our rookie QB. No run game, oline having issues protecting, wrs not getting consistent separation, and of course the rookie mistakes that Bryce makes. And every mistake he makes is magnified times 10 and exaggerated by people on this board who I thought had a good football acumen. But that's what happens when people get blinded by emotion it is what it is.

I'd wager Bryce isn't playing like poo. Sure he's missed some throws but he's working with what he's got which isn't much. What I listed weren't excuses those are what we call "facts." Fact #1. Our oline has been atrocious. Both in the run game and pass game. This is indisputable. Fact #2. Our running has been atrocious. Kind of falls in line with Fact #1 but this is also indisputable. Fact #3. Our WRs are struggling to get separation "moreso in the first 2 weeks, the last 2 weeks have been better but not by much" This is also indisputable. By ignoring the top 3 conditions in which we are forcing our rookie QB to play into it just shows how much of a couch potato you actually are but I wouldn't expect anything less from a casual fan who doesn't understand what's really happening on the football field.

There are plenty of examples of good QBs struggling early in their career. Some were fortunate to not have to play at all. Cam has the NFL record for yards thrown through the first 5 weeks of an NFL season. That was set back in 2011. Not every QB is going to come in and light it up their rookie year. Every situation is different. The Panthers have been an awful team for awhile now. One offseason more than likely isn't going to be enough to turn things around yet. Everyone wants to win now. Everyone wants to see Bryce put up a bunch of yards and TDs. That just isn't us right now. We have to get the oline fixed first before we can do anything as an offense. We have no running game which is a young QBs best friend. We are giving up QB pressures at an alarming rate. People want to overlook these things and pile on our rookie QB as if these things are his fault when they aren't. And to top it off his WRs have been having trouble getting separation. The last 2 games have been better, but the first two games Young literally had nowhere to go with the ball in 1 out of 3 drop backs. That's incredibly bad and no QB is going to thrive in those situations. We are a very young football team. We have a ton of experience on this staff. They need more time to figure things out. Hopefully after the bye week we start looking more improved but I wouldn't expect it to happen over night

Writing off rookies 4 weeks into the season....sheesh. You guys are really losing your marbles around this place

He's played 3 games and has been under pressure at a historic rate and you want him to go out there and throw for 350 yards a game lol...its unrealistic expectations at this current point in time for our offense, but I know I'm just preaching to the choir at this point.

How many years did we have DJ Moore on this team? How many games did we win? Doesn't matter if you don't have a QB that can get him the ball consistently.

NOPE NOPE NOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are aboslutely NO EXCUSES for our #1 pick QB to not be throwing for a MINIMUM 300 YPG and NO LESS than 2 40+ yard passes PER GAME! Even though there are COUNTLESS examples of young QBs struggling in the NFL OUR QB has to perform at no less than a pro bowl level through the first 4 games of the season or else he is a bust and the HC should be fired!!!!!!!! NO EXCUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry just trying to fit in with all the other brain deads on this forum

How is comparing Bryce's rookie year to Trevor's ROOKIE year where he had similar weapons and a bad scheme a bad thing to do? Because Bryce is shorter? That makes absolutely no sense

Trevor had James Robinson who ran for over 1,000 yards the year prior and averaged 4.6 YPC Trevors rookie year. He didn't have a 33 year old Theilen he had Marvin Jones Jr., Chark, and Shenault. There is no way you can sit there and argue Trevor had less to work with than Bryce does currently. Trevor didn't have an OG that gave up 28 pressures in 2 weeks either. So the only reason Trevor was able to overcome the challenges of his rookie year is because he's 6' 5 220 pounds? How many 6'5+ QBs have busted out of the NFL over the years? No two situations in the NFL will EVER be identical. This comparison is to show you people that just because a highly drafted QB struggles his rookie year does not mean he is automatically a bust. Sometimes it takes time to develop. It takes time for the TEAM to develop around him. This isn't the only comparison that I can make it was just the most logical because of how similar the situations are for these two QBs in their rookie years.

Trevor had Chark, Shenault and a bad Oline. Sound familiar? And as Trevor's environment improved from year 1 to year 2, he improved. Why can't the same be said for Bryce?

This year is what year 3 for Lawrence? What does that have to do with anything I said? So Trevor was the victim of bad schemes his rookie year. Gotcha. The bad schemes made him miss wide open throws and the rookie mistakes you normally see from a QB. Gotcha. Trevor threw 1 TD pass the entire months of November and December that year too. But I'm sure that was all on the coaching staff and had absolutely nothing to do with being a rookie qb on a terrible team (similar to what Bryce Young is going through currently). Believe what you want but when Bryce does get it together towards the end of the season and into year 2 it is going to be great to hear the excuses you and everyone else who is bashing our rookie qb come up with as to why he's all of a sudden being successful.

His OG got beaten 19 straight times. Kind of hard to throw down field when you have INTERIOR pressure almost every drop back

There was most definitely questions surrounding whether he was going to translate into a good QB or not. He had a pretty rough rookie season going 3-14. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/4360310/type/nfl/year/2021 He had multiple games without a passing TD, a sub 60% completion % and 17 INTs to 12 TDs. The questions were definitely there. You don't have to have world class measurables to be a good QB in the NFL. Most guys just need time. In fact, I would say the majority of the NFL starters in today's NFL either had rough/incomplete rookie campaigns or sat for a year or more. Sure it sucks being in another "wasted" year where we'd probably be picking in the top 10 again if we had a 1st round pick. The fans have a right to be upset after what was seemingly promised a "playoff" season in year one but thats not how its worked out this far. Do we give up now after all the work that has been put in? I don't think so. I think we continue building this team and see what happens and hopefully they end up turning the corner. I truly believe that they will.

There were plenty of people who thought he was going to be a bust after his rookie year.

Would pie you multiple times if I could. Thank you for the write up. Bryce just needs more time, our offense needs more time. Unfortunately there is going to be some ugly football with such a young team. I would like to see Zavala get some more mental reps and maybe some spot duty before continuing to start him. I think that's what will happen when Corbett finally makes it back from injury

Trevor Lawrence's rookie year is a much better comparison. He also had Chark and Shenault as his WRs that year too.

Were the Jaguars saying that about Trevor Lawrence his rookie year? I doubt it. They went 3-14 and he had 9 games where he didn't throw a TD and only 2 games where he threw more than one. Could it be possible that Bryce Young just needs some time? Is it possible that not every young QB comes into the NFL ready to set the world on fire? Yes Stroud has been killing it. Would he be doing the same here with this system and staff? I doubt it. Oh and btw Trevor Lawrence's WRs that year? DJ Chark and Laviska Shenault. Sound familiar? Gotta give the kid some time. This offense/scheme/running game/O line/WRs/TEs have done Bryce absolutely no favors so far this year.

Remember when Trevor Lawrence was a bust after his rookie year? They went 3-14 and he had a lot of very pedestrian games just like Bryce is currently having. One exception was his first game where he had 300 yards 3 tds and 3 int. It was his only 300 yard game of the year so it was more of an outlier for him. It was also only 1 of 2 games in which he threw more than 1 TD pass. The 2nd game being the last game of the season https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/4360310/type/nfl/year/2021 Obviously the main difference here is that his HC was fired after year 1 (could the same happen here? I doubt it). I really think they just need time. Let them (the team) take their lumps this year and hopefully next year we can have a similar year two that Jacksonville experienced with Trevor.

At least Bryce looks better than Mac Jones. Sheesh

Yea I'll unfortunately be taking another hiatus (whocaresamiright) as shitty as today was I by no means am sticking up for Bryce it's pretty inexcusable to not score a single TD today with all the opportunities we had. Ans as much as I'd like to stick around and discuss it. This place will be an insane asylum this week. Not worth sticking around for it.

Bryce had 2 TD passes on that drive unfortunately they weren't caught

Against one of the worst defenses in the NFL

Boy you sure can fit a lot of dogs in that pie hole of yours. I'm sure the Texans locker room would love to have you as a fan!

Patience, Young Grasshoppa.

This thread will be one for the ages. Hopefully the mods will sticky this once CJ Stroud busts out of the league. If you guys want to be Stroud fans so bad by all means go hang out on the Texans message board I promise you you will not be missed